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Title: Hardest/Most Frustrating Game?
Post by: BurkeWorld on July 13, 2006, 07:28:59 pm
Which game (or part of a game) has almost brougth you to tears? Or that is just so hard you want to chuck your controller across the room?

Post the details here!

RW


Title: Re: Hardest/Most Frustrating Game?
Post by: Threaux on July 14, 2006, 01:26:44 am
Guilty Gear XX Reload on Hardest settings, try fighting Axl, took about 30-40 trys until I found a pattern that let me avoid his arial power attacks.

Other than that maybe Mig-29 for the Sega Gen. and I had some trouble beating Altered Beast when I was little.
(http://www.classicgaming.com/rotw/altbtitle.gif)


Title: Re: Hardest/Most Frustrating Game?
Post by: Alistair Erie on July 14, 2006, 02:06:21 pm
I was on Cheat Today, and I came across a thing that said that if you beat Super Smash Bros. on very hard mode with one life and no continues, then on your character selection screen will look either evil or scared.
I got close several times, and it took me about a week or so to succeed.
Turns out it was all a big lie!  (>:()
I'm very gullible.  :D


Title: Re: Hardest/Most Frustrating Game?
Post by: NPC on July 14, 2006, 04:10:46 pm
I'm very gullible.  :D
Never believe the people who say stuff like that. They're the same guys who'll tell you Sonic is in Melee. >:[

Kid Icarus. I played through a frustrating game that I disliked.


Title: Re: Hardest/Most Frustrating Game?
Post by: Mechadon on July 14, 2006, 08:51:30 pm
Flicky for the Sega Genesis. Sure, the conecpt of the game is simple; Collect all Chickys, bring them to the escape door, avoid all cats and lizards. But try playing it. It's so damn hard. I had a friend who was able to beat every Genesis game I owned. So I lent him Flicky for a week to try to finish. He couldn't do it.


Title: Re: Hardest/Most Frustrating Game?
Post by: Valkyrie on July 15, 2006, 11:37:09 pm
Legacy of the Wizard, for the NES.
It's easy in concept too, collect the 4 crowns and the dragon slayer.
My current speed run is at: 15 years, 8 months...

Yeah, its that hard, but the music is good and the characters are cool


Title: Re: Hardest/Most Frustrating Game?
Post by: Big Red on July 25, 2006, 10:42:33 am
Beating M. Bison in Street Fighter II Turbo with 8 stars, which happened at 7 or 8 years.


Title: Re: Hardest/Most Frustrating Game?
Post by: fish sandwich patrol on August 09, 2006, 12:07:46 am
Battletoads, the speeder bike level.  My God, why did they have to make it so hard?!

Also the Breakthrough expansion for Medal of Honor: Allied Assault.  The entire game.  Especially the part where you had to fend off a ton of tanks with a crappy mortar that you could hardly aim, and also the very last part where you had to snipe the demolitions guys trying to blow up the radio tower.


Title: Re: Hardest/Most Frustrating Game?
Post by: Anonymous on August 09, 2006, 03:55:13 pm
Ghouls and Ghosts Super Turbo Edition (Snes and Arcade) (and Ghouls and ghosts Standard too)

1 life, 1 powerup. 80 baddies per level, 1 hard boss every 5 levels. 240 levels.

This game on EASY was a mission. I've completed it several times on easy, and only once at normal. the game is impossible on Hard or godlike. i know of no-one to beat it at godlike.



oh and i forgot to say, no save points...


Title: Re: Hardest/Most Frustrating Game?
Post by: Valkyrie on August 09, 2006, 05:05:42 pm
Here's a new one, Melty Blood Re-Act.

On difficulty 5, its nearly impossible to any level unless you are some sort of professional arcade-style-fighting-game champion.  But its all worth it to see the super-cool specials that the cpu pumps out.


Title: Re: Hardest/Most Frustrating Game?
Post by: Blackcat on August 09, 2006, 08:30:19 pm
Aztec Adventure (For the Master System) eight level, is has too many boss fights and only one thing that fills your health...in the whole level!. I was never able to pass it, maybe because I didn’t cheat, but next time I take the master system out of the box (In December, cause I love to play videgames before Christmas) I’m going to do use some cheats and end the damn thing!.


Title: Re: Hardest/Most Frustrating Game?
Post by: CRBWildcat on August 11, 2006, 02:43:28 pm
A couple different games, actually.

First up is Space Hulk for the PC. There's this object on one of the later levels that I'm supposed to find if I want to beat the mission.  I've been playing the game in earnest since the mid-1990s, and I still haven't beaten it.  >:(

Second is Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles for the NES. I've managed to reach the Technodrome stage, and it's at this point that the enemies start to say: "What are we losing to THIS guy for?  He's nothing!" Basically, each time I play this game, I wind up dying before I even reach the Shredder.

Pokemon Emerald's the most recent game to join the list, due in no small part to the Battle Frontier's sheer difficulty.  I don't care what they say; it's HARD.


Title: Re: Hardest/Most Frustrating Game?
Post by: NPC on August 11, 2006, 03:41:12 pm
Space Hulk

A name I've not heard for QUITE a while. 8O


Title: Re: Hardest/Most Frustrating Game?
Post by: Blackcat on August 16, 2006, 11:10:18 pm
A couple different games, actually.

First up is Space Hulk for the PC. There's this object on one of the later levels that I'm supposed to find if I want to beat the mission.  I've been playing the game in earnest since the mid-1990s, and I still haven't beaten it.  >:(

Second is Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles for the NES. I've managed to reach the Technodrome stage, and it's at this point that the enemies start to say: "What are we losing to THIS guy for?  He's nothing!" Basically, each time I play this game, I wind up dying before I even reach the Shredder.

Pokemon Emerald's the most recent game to join the list, due in no small part to the Battle Frontier's sheer difficulty.  I don't care what they say; it's HARD.


Maybe but I still miss mount Silver and Red(The one with level 80 pokemon)....


Title: Re: Hardest/Most Frustrating Game?
Post by: D-Mac on August 17, 2006, 05:11:51 pm
Ikaruga and F-Zero GX. I've wanted to smash both these games into itty bitty pieces at one point in time.  >:(


Title: Re: Hardest/Most Frustrating Game?
Post by: Valkyrie on August 17, 2006, 11:15:55 pm
Ikaruga is awesome bundled up into an unbeatable little package


Title: Re: Hardest/Most Frustrating Game?
Post by: BurkeWorld on August 18, 2006, 01:19:15 am
Ikaruga is awesome bundled up into an unbeatable little package

I beg to differ.

Here's a vid for all you Ikaruga nuts = [urlhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGNSdcy-apU]HARD MODE LOOKS EASY![/url]

Burkey


Title: Re: Hardest/Most Frustrating Game?
Post by: fish sandwich patrol on August 18, 2006, 03:22:52 am
Ikaruga and F-Zero GX. I've wanted to smash both these games into itty bitty pieces at one point in time.  >:(

Sonic Phantom = easy mode.  If you haven't tried playing as him, I'd suggest you try it.  I can dominate any track on the hardest difficulty with no problem as The Skull (with anyone else... not so much).

And I'll second Ikaruga.  That game is HARD.


Title: Re: Hardest/Most Frustrating Game?
Post by: Valkyrie on August 18, 2006, 11:23:56 am
Ikaruga is awesome bundled up into an unbeatable little package

I beg to differ.

Here's a vid for all you Ikaruga nuts = [urlhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGNSdcy-apU]HARD MODE LOOKS EASY![/url]

Burkey

Yeah, I saw a movie like that as well. when I first saw that I was in such awe that I played Ikaruga for like 3 solid days, but alas, mere mortals are not perfect enough to play it.


Title: Re: Hardest/Most Frustrating Game?
Post by: Blackcat on August 19, 2006, 06:52:02 pm
Ikaruga is awesome bundled up into an unbeatable little package

I beg to differ.

Here's a vid for all you Ikaruga nuts = [urlhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGNSdcy-apU]HARD MODE LOOKS EASY![/url]

Burkey

Yeah, I saw a movie like that as well. when I first saw that I was in such awe that I played Ikaruga for like 3 solid days, but alas, mere mortals are not perfect enough to play it.

The problem is that many just keep playing the game in the wrong way over and over again, that’s why GameFAOs exist. In the other hand, those who just try everything (I tried everything in Mario Kart 64) end mastering the game.

In Phantasy star III I tried everything for a while, for example I explored and level up a lot, so the first  halt  of the game was a piece of cake, but I didn’t like The second half, so I stooped playing it.


Title: Re: Hardest/Most Frustrating Game?
Post by: KageReneko on August 24, 2006, 07:56:17 pm
Adventure Island 1 for NES...
Everything has been said


Title: Re: Hardest/Most Frustrating Game?
Post by: felineki on August 29, 2006, 01:12:24 am
Gradius III... the original arcade game, not the SNES port. PS2 version counts, I guess, as it is a fairly accurate port of the arcade game, but it has a difficulty setting and cheats, so you can make it go easier on you... no such thing in the arcade, the game's always at its cruelest.

This game gave me a phobia of ice cubes that I'm still struggling with to this day.


Title: Re: Hardest/Most Frustrating Game?
Post by: Matt on November 30, 2006, 12:53:25 pm
Ninja Gaiden Black.

Only 4 of the game's testers managed to beat it on the hardest difficulty setting.


Title: Re: Hardest/Most Frustrating Game?
Post by: ApacheMan2K on November 30, 2006, 01:54:52 pm
the hardest i've ever played are:

Othello (NES): the computer player tends to be a cheapskate, even when you play in the easiest difficulty level.

Battletoads (NES): in addition to the Turbo Tunnel, there's also the stage that goes before the fight against the Dark Queen. you're holding these handle bars and you're following a track that goes up, down, left, and right. at the same time, you're being chased by what looks like a vortex, and it is nearly impossible to outrun it, no matter how long you're holding in the direction you're going.

Bart vs. The Space Mutants (NES): yep, will, it's pretty hard alright. how am i supposed to make every single purple thing ? of course, it is a low-budget game by Imagineering, infamous for making crappy licensed games, yet they did much better with more original titles (like "A Boy and His Blob" and "Ghoul School").

Virtual Bart (SNES): most of the games within this game are tough, namely the baby and pig ones.

Adventure Island 1: that, too, gets pretty tough as you're getting closer and closer to the last "area". but, if you found the Hudson bee at the end of the first stage, you should be able to continue as many times as you need to.


Title: Re: Hardest/Most Frustrating Game?
Post by: necron9dee9 on November 30, 2006, 05:13:10 pm
Ghosts and Goblins on the original NES.

Me and a friend of mine picked up and old refurbished NES system about 7 or 8 years ago and grabbed this game with it. I had owned it before and remembered not beating it, so I slapped down a whopping 2 dollars for it at the game store. :p The combination of the god-awful difficulty of that game with only 3 lives and the fact that it was being played on an old NES (breathe too loud and the system has a seizure...) made it the most miserable gaming exprerience ever, hehe. After trying to beat it for a week straight we cut our losses and tossed the game off of the cliff in back of his apartment...

Honorable mention would go to trying to beat the original Final Fantasy using only warriors. That was actually fun though (apart from the occasional NES seizure as stated above :p).





Title: Re: Hardest/Most Frustrating Game?
Post by: adam808 on December 02, 2006, 02:42:08 am
Please don't ever play the NES games of Back to the Future.


Title: Re: Hardest/Most Frustrating Game?
Post by: Takila on December 02, 2006, 03:39:09 am
 Home Improvement for the SNES, a horribly campy version of the TV show.  Apart from the sonic rip-offs, it's poor controls and lack of purpose left me giving up at the first level.

I had a 25 game CD of games like these.  The only one that comes to mind is Star Goose, a poorly made "dodge-em" kind of game with no FPS limits.  You'd start, and then die milliseconds later.

and anything Barbie-esque *shudders*.  Those things really tax me.


Title: Re: Hardest/Most Frustrating Game?
Post by: SteC on December 02, 2006, 04:41:58 am
There was 'Batman' for the NES where I really can't remember who the second boss was anymore because I never got that far into the level.

'Contra' (NES) is still hard as nails after all these years of trying not to get hit. There were loads cheap ways to lose your one and only energy bar. ¬_¬; But the game was censored in Europe and changed the title to 'Probotector'; all the soldiers turned into robots.

In 'Sonic Riders', there were a couple of stages that I had several runs through that wasn't even necessary. And WHO had to get the PS2 version?  :-[

Out of these three though, I'd say 'Batman' was most hardest, with 'Contra' being very frustrating.


Title: Re: Hardest/Most Frustrating Game?
Post by: TGLucario475 on February 25, 2008, 04:11:57 pm
not really sure

its between:

Crash Nitro Kart - PS2 - Velo is very hard the 2nd time around
Crash Bash - PS1 - N.Oxide is very hard to keep up with at 1st, after that its easy
The Lion King - SNES - cant get past the ostrich bit
Crash Of The Titans - PS2 - couldnt really do it at 1st, but since i unlocked all things needed, its quite easy now



Title: Re: Hardest/Most Frustrating Game?
Post by: Guido64380 on February 28, 2008, 01:33:50 am
Wii sports boxing for frustration. It rarely punches where I want....

So much for my fun exercise....


Title: Re: Hardest/Most Frustrating Game?
Post by: sans soul on February 28, 2008, 07:23:43 pm
Wii sports boxing for frustration. It rarely punches where I want....

So much for my fun exercise....

Burkey was saying the same thing when he was playing it.


Title: Re: Hardest/Most Frustrating Game?
Post by: SCerviche on February 28, 2008, 10:04:29 pm
Call of Duty 4 on veteran difficulty.


Title: Re: Hardest/Most Frustrating Game?
Post by: Crow on February 29, 2008, 12:59:19 am
Wii sports boxing for frustration. It rarely punches where I want....

So much for my fun exercise....

Burkey was saying the same thing when he was playing it.

Gah, yeah, it's so true. Ah well, bowling is still kickass fun. :)

I can't beat One by Metallica on Expert Mode in Guitar Hero 3... I've been trying for 3 days straight.. I got 98% of the way through, but I kept failing it.. CURSE YOU, METALLICA!

~Burkey


Title: Wrong, by Lex Luthor
Post by: Takila on March 14, 2008, 05:59:14 pm
It's time for an over analyzed quote thingy!

Anything Spyro is frustrating.  You never really get any power-ups throughout each game.  Except in the latest installment, you get Lightning, Ice, Fire, and Earth Breath.  Sure, they all do the same amount of damage, have the same shapes, and move the same way, but come on, different colors!

I'll agree that the new games are bad for a variety of reasons, and not go to far into them.  Those games weren't made by the same company as the first three, and it showed.  Powerups, on the other hand, have never been part of a traditional platformers.  It forced limitations on you, rather than giving you 15 billion options to do the same thing (JaRPGs, WoW, fighting games, etc.).   

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Let's not forget that the monsters are all the same.  In Spyro III for PS1, I can count the variety.  You had the ones immune to fire, the ones immune to bashing, and the ones that you could kill in one hit of anything.  Just different shapes and/or colors through each level which had basically the same theme, only a different theme.

The Spyro trilogy was, and always will be, a platforming game.  The first was far more strict, and a good deal harder then the other two.  The same level design exists is all games.  As a rule, Monsters end up as a flavouring for the level rather than a focus.  Both the game engine and your mastery of it come further into play.

 
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You know, instead of being a cave full of lava, you would have a cave full of ice (which acted like lava).  Or a pit of poison, or a pit of spikes, or a bottomless pit, or a piranha-infested river...and let's not forget castles.  You have ruined castles, frozen-over castles, burning castles, dark creepy castles...and occasionally a castle in the clouds.

While I agree that the levels shared functional similarity, they were graphically very different.  Different colours, different art styles, and plots were all overlay for the basic design of the level.  As for creativity, its nice as long as the game remains playable and straightforward enough.  Could you imagine a platformer without a fire or ice level?  It's become a very traditional part of any game, other than the odd ones.

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I can play through the first two levels of any of the games, then not even the plot or voice stylings of Elijah Wood and David Spade can keep me interested for much longer.

If that's the way you think, then my arguing wont be change your mind.  The game is simplistic and repetitive, but not out of line with modern games.  I enjoyed the plot(s) of the first three games for a ten to twelve year old, which was the target audience at the time,   Though I don't know when you played it, I'd hope that you weren't too cynical of a kid.  If you did, then here's the best I can do:

The Spyro series is a lot like the Mario series.  Sure, you had the same enemies, a limited skill set, incredibly repetitive levels with a light coat of paint on them at best (Mario 3 here), a good many castles, and was graphically simple. The fact is, it still considered to be one the best games made ... of it's time.  That's what Spyro was and is: a series that was well made at the time, and stays as such.

If you really want a good modern platformer, play Psychonauts.   It's funny, it's highly creative, and the dangerous surface type thing? Its not fire, poison, electricity or spikes...  its water.  As in, the main character has a fear of water.  And the levels take place in people's minds.


As a parting thought (RPing as Yahtzee here): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yon2YuXssvo&NR=1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yon2YuXssvo&NR=1)


Title: Re: Hardest/Most Frustrating Game?
Post by: KageReneko on March 30, 2008, 05:58:27 am
Ninja Gaiden 1 for NES (Damn Birds), Final Fantasy 1 for NES, Jurassic Parc for NES, the f***ng G.I. Joe games for NES, TMNT 1 for NES, The Castlevania Adventure for GB, Double Dragon for GB... I never could beat any of them (At least not without cheating)

Man... the old gen games are killers... Specially the ones without continues!!


Title: Re: Hardest/Most Frustrating Game?
Post by: Cloud-Boy on March 30, 2008, 05:37:29 pm
Super Ghosts and Goblins.

The dude armor is about as protective as the Imperial storm Trooper's  armor.


Title: Re: Hardest/Most Frustrating Game?
Post by: Crow on March 31, 2008, 06:35:03 pm
I beat One on Guitar Hero 3 finally. Now to move onto Raining Blood and TTFAF.

Funny thing is; I can play Raining Blood on my real guitar much easier than GH3...

~Burkey


Title: Re: Hardest/Most Frustrating Game?
Post by: Crow on August 27, 2008, 10:31:22 pm
Necro-bump.

Good ol' Final Fantasy VI is always tough. Stuck on the Dullahan battle in the tomb of Daryl.

~Burkey


Title: Re: Hardest/Most Frustrating Game?
Post by: CRBWildcat on October 24, 2008, 12:36:24 am
In recent years, Starcraft has made to the top of my list (for the frustration bit). This isn't really the programmers' fault so much as the fault of the people I've played against---and my own as well. Due in part to my schedule, I've had to recreate my Battle.Net account several times. The last time I did it, I couldn't even last seven minutes into a game, let alone the two hours needed to keep my account---people kept on cannon-rushing me. To top it off, I kept getting booted off of games before they started. Finally, I just said: "Forget this", and gave up on playing on Battle.Net altogether.

To a lesser extent, the Megaman ZX series as well. Stinkin' instant-death spike traps.


Title: Re: Hardest/Most Frustrating Game?
Post by: Crow on October 24, 2008, 05:29:43 am
Dead Space is giving me a headache at the moment.

So many enemies.. So little ammo..

C'mon Issac! We can do this!

~Burkey


Title: Re: Wrong, by Lex Luthor
Post by: B.J. on October 24, 2008, 10:22:52 am
It's time for an over analyzed quote thingy!

Anything Spyro is frustrating.  You never really get any power-ups throughout each game.  Except in the latest installment, you get Lightning, Ice, Fire, and Earth Breath.  Sure, they all do the same amount of damage, have the same shapes, and move the same way, but come on, different colors!

I'll agree that the new games are bad for a variety of reasons, and not go to far into them.  Those games weren't made by the same company as the first three, and it showed.  Powerups, on the other hand, have never been part of a traditional platformers.  It forced limitations on you, rather than giving you 15 billion options to do the same thing (JaRPGs, WoW, fighting games, etc.).   

Quote
Let's not forget that the monsters are all the same.  In Spyro III for PS1, I can count the variety.  You had the ones immune to fire, the ones immune to bashing, and the ones that you could kill in one hit of anything.  Just different shapes and/or colors through each level which had basically the same theme, only a different theme.

The Spyro trilogy was, and always will be, a platforming game.  The first was far more strict, and a good deal harder then the other two.  The same level design exists is all games.  As a rule, Monsters end up as a flavouring for the level rather than a focus.  Both the game engine and your mastery of it come further into play.

 
Quote
You know, instead of being a cave full of lava, you would have a cave full of ice (which acted like lava).  Or a pit of poison, or a pit of spikes, or a bottomless pit, or a piranha-infested river...and let's not forget castles.  You have ruined castles, frozen-over castles, burning castles, dark creepy castles...and occasionally a castle in the clouds.

While I agree that the levels shared functional similarity, they were graphically very different.  Different colours, different art styles, and plots were all overlay for the basic design of the level.  As for creativity, its nice as long as the game remains playable and straightforward enough.  Could you imagine a platformer without a fire or ice level?  It's become a very traditional part of any game, other than the odd ones.

Quote
I can play through the first two levels of any of the games, then not even the plot or voice stylings of Elijah Wood and David Spade can keep me interested for much longer.

If that's the way you think, then my arguing wont be change your mind.  The game is simplistic and repetitive, but not out of line with modern games.  I enjoyed the plot(s) of the first three games for a ten to twelve year old, which was the target audience at the time,   Though I don't know when you played it, I'd hope that you weren't too cynical of a kid.  If you did, then here's the best I can do:

The Spyro series is a lot like the Mario series.  Sure, you had the same enemies, a limited skill set, incredibly repetitive levels with a light coat of paint on them at best (Mario 3 here), a good many castles, and was graphically simple. The fact is, it still considered to be one the best games made ... of it's time.  That's what Spyro was and is: a series that was well made at the time, and stays as such.

If you really want a good modern platformer, play Psychonauts.   It's funny, it's highly creative, and the dangerous surface type thing? Its not fire, poison, electricity or spikes...  its water.  As in, the main character has a fear of water.  And the levels take place in people's minds.


As a parting thought (RPing as Yahtzee here): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yon2YuXssvo&NR=1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yon2YuXssvo&NR=1)

Never played the old games but The Legend of Spyro games....psh, they're EASY! It depends on which games from the series you have. I can help you with any of them as I'm nearly an expert at those games! Getting the new one today. Waiting impatiently for a game can be soooooo annoying!

Anyway, back on topic.
Do not play Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles for the NES. It is THE cruddiest game of Ninja Turtles game history. I mean, TMNT (movie game) isn't...well, it is bad, everyone says it's bad but being a Ninja Turtles freak, I bought it just for the heck of it. But the NES game....Wow! It's really hard to prevent yourself from getting hit. Beating Rocksteady is a bother unless you have Donatello. And don't even get me started on the difficulty of the water levels.

Battletoads is AMAZINGLY difficult. Other than the biker levels, the enemies will jump you pretty easily and it's sometimes hard to avoid them. Still, I'd pick this game over Ninja Turtles for the NES. And I like this game alot despite it's difficulty.

Still looking for some more games.


Title: Re: Hardest/Most Frustrating Game?
Post by: Guido64380 on October 26, 2008, 05:52:13 pm
I want to be The Guy. Beat it on Insane, I dare ya. I'll bake cookies if you do.


Title: Re: Hardest/Most Frustrating Game?
Post by: Gabya on October 27, 2008, 04:04:19 am
I want to be The Guy. Beat it on Insane, I dare ya. I'll bake cookies if you do.
yeah, I was gonna say IWTBTG to :)
if you want a hard game, you wont be dissapionted ;)


Title: Re: Hardest/Most Frustrating Game?
Post by: MitchZer0 on October 27, 2008, 09:16:33 pm
hardest game,

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm......................

zelda OOT, oh wait, not really frustrating

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm................................

zelda2


Title: Re: Wrong, by Lex Luthor
Post by: Yakko Cerviche on October 27, 2008, 11:50:25 pm
It's time for an over analyzed quote thingy!

Anything Spyro is frustrating.  You never really get any power-ups throughout each game.  Except in the latest installment, you get Lightning, Ice, Fire, and Earth Breath.  Sure, they all do the same amount of damage, have the same shapes, and move the same way, but come on, different colors!

I'll agree that the new games are bad for a variety of reasons, and not go to far into them.  Those games weren't made by the same company as the first three, and it showed.  Powerups, on the other hand, have never been part of a traditional platformers.  It forced limitations on you, rather than giving you 15 billion options to do the same thing (JaRPGs, WoW, fighting games, etc.).   

Quote
Let's not forget that the monsters are all the same.  In Spyro III for PS1, I can count the variety.  You had the ones immune to fire, the ones immune to bashing, and the ones that you could kill in one hit of anything.  Just different shapes and/or colors through each level which had basically the same theme, only a different theme.

The Spyro trilogy was, and always will be, a platforming game.  The first was far more strict, and a good deal harder then the other two.  The same level design exists is all games.  As a rule, Monsters end up as a flavouring for the level rather than a focus.  Both the game engine and your mastery of it come further into play.

 
Quote
You know, instead of being a cave full of lava, you would have a cave full of ice (which acted like lava).  Or a pit of poison, or a pit of spikes, or a bottomless pit, or a piranha-infested river...and let's not forget castles.  You have ruined castles, frozen-over castles, burning castles, dark creepy castles...and occasionally a castle in the clouds.

While I agree that the levels shared functional similarity, they were graphically very different.  Different colours, different art styles, and plots were all overlay for the basic design of the level.  As for creativity, its nice as long as the game remains playable and straightforward enough.  Could you imagine a platformer without a fire or ice level?  It's become a very traditional part of any game, other than the odd ones.

Quote
I can play through the first two levels of any of the games, then not even the plot or voice stylings of Elijah Wood and David Spade can keep me interested for much longer.

If that's the way you think, then my arguing wont be change your mind.  The game is simplistic and repetitive, but not out of line with modern games.  I enjoyed the plot(s) of the first three games for a ten to twelve year old, which was the target audience at the time,   Though I don't know when you played it, I'd hope that you weren't too cynical of a kid.  If you did, then here's the best I can do:

The Spyro series is a lot like the Mario series.  Sure, you had the same enemies, a limited skill set, incredibly repetitive levels with a light coat of paint on them at best (Mario 3 here), a good many castles, and was graphically simple. The fact is, it still considered to be one the best games made ... of it's time.  That's what Spyro was and is: a series that was well made at the time, and stays as such.

If you really want a good modern platformer, play Psychonauts.   It's funny, it's highly creative, and the dangerous surface type thing? Its not fire, poison, electricity or spikes...  its water.  As in, the main character has a fear of water.  And the levels take place in people's minds.


As a parting thought (RPing as Yahtzee here): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yon2YuXssvo&NR=1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yon2YuXssvo&NR=1)

Never played the old games but The Legend of Spyro games....psh, they're EASY! It depends on which games from the series you have. I can help you with any of them as I'm nearly an expert at those games! Getting the new one today. Waiting impatiently for a game can be soooooo annoying!

Anyway, back on topic.
Do not play Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles for the NES. It is THE cruddiest game of Ninja Turtles game history. I mean, TMNT (movie game) isn't...well, it is bad, everyone says it's bad but being a Ninja Turtles freak, I bought it just for the heck of it. But the NES game....Wow! It's really hard to prevent yourself from getting hit. Beating Rocksteady is a bother unless you have Donatello. And don't even get me started on the difficulty of the water levels.

Battletoads is AMAZINGLY difficult. Other than the biker levels, the enemies will jump you pretty easily and it's sometimes hard to avoid them. Still, I'd pick this game over Ninja Turtles for the NES. And I like this game alot despite it's difficulty.

Still looking for some more games.

Hey, I actually like the NES Ninja Turtles game.  It is hard as heck, though.  Kirby's Dream Course can be hard and frustrating, but it's still darn fun in the process.


Title: Re: Hardest/Most Frustrating Game?
Post by: Crow on October 28, 2008, 01:06:15 am
I beat Dead Space finally. Wowowowow.

I've unlocked the "Impossible Difficulty" setting, I'm gonna see if it's impossible.

..... Urrrrgh... Stupid fast monsters... T_T

~Burkey


Title: Re: Hardest/Most Frustrating Game?
Post by: MitchZer0 on October 29, 2008, 08:20:07 pm
speecking of that, I completed level 1 in doom ultimate in NIGHTMARE difficulty, damn, sergents were all around me shooting me


Title: Re: Hardest/Most Frustrating Game?
Post by: CRBWildcat on November 01, 2008, 03:32:26 pm
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Battletoads is AMAZINGLY difficult. Other than the biker levels, the enemies will jump you pretty easily and it's sometimes hard to avoid them. Still, I'd pick this game over Ninja Turtles for the NES. And I like this game alot despite it's difficulty.

I've heard it said that actually beating the game's a rarity, even through the use of cheat codes.

Most of the Ninja Turtles game I didn't have much of a problem with; I'd played it several times during my childhood (read: 5-6 years old) and watched others do it, so I know most of the layout and traps by heart. My problem with the game lies with the Technodrome stage---all the times I've played it, I've never survived to face the Shredder without cheating.


Title: Re: Hardest/Most Frustrating Game?
Post by: Gabya on November 02, 2008, 03:49:25 pm
Serious Sam on Serious difficulty, Its SERIOUS business


Title: Re: Hardest/Most Frustrating Game?
Post by: Blackcat on November 04, 2008, 12:14:34 am
Digimon world 4 is just freaking frustrating, no wonder it didn't sold good...


Title: Re: Hardest/Most Frustrating Game?
Post by: Gabya on November 04, 2008, 04:39:52 am
other hard games are Jet Set Willy and Monty On The Run...


Title: Re: Hardest/Most Frustrating Game?
Post by: Crow on November 04, 2008, 04:42:47 pm
GH4 = GH:WT

They just changed the name.

As for the Lou battle... Search up YouTube for tips on how to beat him, that's how I got my golden guitar :D

~IC


Title: Re: Hardest/Most Frustrating Game?
Post by: Teyandee on July 17, 2010, 11:05:18 am
Recently I came across the Syobon action (http://www.geocities.jp/z_gundam_tanosii/home/applet/Main.html) (しょぼんのアクション) video game.
It appeares to be a Japanese remake of a Super Mario Bros. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Mario_Bros.) game.

To get you the idea of its difficultly I post this quote from the Wikipedia article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syobon_action)
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The game's reason of excessive difficulty is that, unlike Super Mario Bros., it contains concealed traps (such as spikes, "falling stars" and mushrooms).The game's obstacles are so tricky that it makes the game extremely difficult to complete. In fact, it's impossible for players to complete it on their first try, and is especially difficult for those who are used to Mario game mechanics.

I can`t finish the 1st level. I need to do a "correct jump" - over the spike and avoid the falling balloon(?). But when I`m trying to jump over I manage to touch the spike from the left. And when I move on, that falling ballon hits me.

Here`s an example of a playthrough, showing some traps:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOfBIwDrb7I


Title: Re: Hardest/Most Frustrating Game?
Post by: sjonnoh on July 18, 2010, 08:26:10 am
haha, the moment where that toadstool made that guy with the crown bigger so it would vanish was a funny one!  :D


Title: Re: Hardest/Most Frustrating Game?
Post by: Zeke on August 26, 2010, 09:15:52 pm
Would always find playing the czech republic on pes hard


Title: Re: Hardest/Most Frustrating Game?
Post by: vonhorz on September 10, 2010, 05:00:49 pm
Tetris....you wont believe how long i played to reach the 999.999 points
icewind dale with just a single character was .....frustrating
Halo ODST ;legend with all oddballs....those who own halo 3 know what im talking about
Kessen: incredibly deep strategy game for the ps2....Ishida vs Tokugawa....but it takes ages to make beat the whole game.
prince of persia(the reaaaly old one)....God DaMN! who was able to beat the game without doing the levels twice to waste no time?! i wasnt


Title: Re: Hardest/Most Frustrating Game?
Post by: sjonnoh on September 10, 2010, 05:03:45 pm
prince of persia is always hard for me too....always figuring out how to escape some kinda place X3


Title: Re: Hardest/Most Frustrating Game?
Post by: Mr.NoName on September 10, 2010, 05:13:35 pm
Ninja Gaiden. Hardest. Game. Ever.


Title: Re: Hardest/Most Frustrating Game?
Post by: blind2d on September 10, 2010, 09:35:53 pm
No argument here, noname!


Title: Re: Hardest/Most Frustrating Game?
Post by: vonhorz on September 11, 2010, 06:03:02 am
prince of persia is always hard for me too....always figuring out how to escape some kinda place X3
are we talking about the same PoP? i mean the 2-D one with the "one-hour-to-beat-the-whole-game"-limitation
even thought the newer generation is okay as well, at least the PS2 generation was


Title: Re: Hardest/Most Frustrating Game?
Post by: sjonnoh on September 11, 2010, 06:21:14 am
I've played only 3D version (sand of time and another one) both never finished X3


Title: Re: Hardest/Most Frustrating Game?
Post by: Someone who does Something on January 26, 2011, 03:06:06 pm
Sonic '06: 7.5/10 But IT IS VERY VERY HARD!!!!! Mostly the car doging level.... that level is insane... just beat it.
Ikaruga:Even me and and my brother cant beat it on easy EVEN ON 2P CO-OP!!!
LOZ Games:Do i need to explian.
Jikkyou Oshaberi Parodius:Wow just WOW


Title: Re: Hardest/Most Frustrating Game?
Post by: CRBWildcat on February 02, 2011, 09:42:48 pm
Two fangames for the PC have made it onto my personal "WHY MUST YOU BE SO STINKIN' HARD?!" list.

The first is "I Wanna Be The Guy", the game that takes everything you know about death traps and video game nostalgia and ups the difficulty a few notches. Dying in one hit. Taking on a giant Mike Tyson. The MOON ITSELF falling down and CHASING AFTER YOU. The quote in my signature was from a Let's Play that someone did of the game, and it's as absurd as it sounds. I'm still stuck somewhere between the first and second bosses, and it's been somewhere between 6-11 months since I first got the game.

The second is "Megamari", a (rather well-done, actually) Megaman clone featuring Touhou characters and characteristics. I've actually managed to beat it, unlike the prior example, but each and every one of the stages tested the limits of my patience... to say nothing of the game's final fortress, which MUST be beaten in one sitting. "Dodge this," indeed.


Title: Re: Hardest/Most Frustrating Game?
Post by: Crow on February 03, 2011, 09:38:45 pm
Trying to 100% Super Meat Boy is getting to be very challenging.

~Burke


Title: Re: Hardest/Most Frustrating Game?
Post by: rcom88 on November 30, 2012, 05:02:54 pm
Space Ace for Super Nintendo. As a kid, I could never beat it. I still can't beat it.


Title: Re: Hardest/Most Frustrating Game?
Post by: Matt Pushinka on January 23, 2013, 08:39:20 am
Defeating Olga in European Extreme Mode, in Metal Gear Solid 2. I've beaten all Metal Gear Solid Series in the hardest levels, and still nothing beats that boss battle.


Title: Re: Hardest/Most Frustrating Game?
Post by: cuchulain on January 24, 2013, 06:46:28 pm
When I was still in college, I staid at my university one summer and took classes to make sure i graduated on time.  Anyway, in the summer there is no one at all around, and at the time that movie The King of Kong had just come out.  So being the dummy that I am, I tried to get close to the scores in that movie to see if I could get near those guys (my university had an old Donkey Kong cabinet in the student center)...  Bad, bad idea; I nearly ended up with carpal tunnel and that movie does not show how hard Donkey Kong really is.