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1  Samurai Pizza Cats / General SPC Discussion / Re: OFFICIAL SPC and KNT Boxsets to be released by Discotek Media! on: July 24, 2013, 09:41:02 am
My Samurai Pizza Cats set arrived yesterday, I'll probably post a quickie review if anyone's interested.
2  Role Playing Boards / SPC Role Playing Group / Re: Anyone Still Around Who's Interested? on: September 29, 2010, 09:41:16 pm
Now would we want this to be an all official-character RP, or something with custom characters?
3  Samurai Pizza Cats / General SPC Discussion / Re: Those Blasted Cats (Raz's superfluously unnecessary hypothetical question 1) on: September 28, 2010, 12:16:01 am
My first course of action would be to poison their pizza with a slow-acting toxin. Not only would it reduce their credibility, but they would soon be too weak to battle, as they eat their pizza for dinner every night... MWAHAHAHA
4  General Discussion / Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Photos thread on: September 10, 2010, 09:29:47 pm
Here's some more, because why the Hell not?








5  General Discussion / Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Milli Vanilli and the Dark Side of Music - an article on: September 06, 2010, 08:57:51 pm
Yes. And the ironic thing about that is that Rob & Fab did their own terrible voice acting.
6  General Discussion / Off-Topic Discussion / Milli Vanilli and the Dark Side of Music - an article on: September 06, 2010, 06:04:27 pm
When I say my favorite band is Milli Vanilli, that's a pretty loaded statement. Milli Vanilli is one of the most controversial music groups of all time, with a history full of talent, success, deception, lies, and collapse.

WARNING: This is a LONG, in depth history researched on various websites and in discussions with two of the band members, Linda and Jodie Rocco. It's a very interesting story and well worth the read.

The story begins with Frank Farian, an incredibly prolific and powerful German music producer. He heard the song "Girl You Know It's True" in a club and decided he liked it. "Girl You Know It's True" was written and performed by an obscure rap group from Maryland, named Numarx. Although they never had much success, Farian contacted them and obtained the rights to the song. He set about re-arranging it, creating his own version. To sing the song, he recruited professional singers Brad Howell, Jodie Rocco, and Jodie's twin sister Linda Rocco. Charles Shaw performed the rap sections. Each performer was kept unaware of the others. The song was released in Germany in 1988, and it was soon clear it was destined to become a hit. This being the MTV era, Frank knew he needed a hip image to market the song with. He envisioned a young, stylish black group. The problem? Charles and Brad were middle-aged and not particularly attractive, and Linda and Jodie were white.



Robert Pilatus (left) & Fabrice Morvan (right)


Enter Robert Pilatus and Fabrice Morvan, more commonly known as Rob & Fab. The two were world-class breakdancers and aspiring models and singers. They were members of a musical group known as Empire Bizarre, which had released one unsuccessful single on a small record label. Interestingly, Rob was already a friend of the Rocco sisters, having danced in one of Jodie's biggest shows. Farian discovered Rob & Fab in a club and offered them a record contract. The two were in their early twenties, and both came from humble beginnings. Despite their good looks and talent, Rob & Fab had never had much money and dreamt of fame and fortune. A contract with Farian, a hugely successful music producer, was too good to pass up. The two signed the contract without even reading it.

It was not until much later that they learned what was really going on - they were there to serve as the visual aspect of Milli Vanilli, and have nothing to do with the music. They'd be in the music video (dancing and lipsynching to the real band's vocals), the press photos, and the interviews, and they were NOT allowed to tell anyone they weren't singing. Having already signed the contract and been paid large cash advances, they had no choice but to go along with it.

The song became an even bigger hit than expected, hitting #1 on the German charts and making stars of Rob & Fab. The decision was made to create an entire album, using the same method - Brad, Linda, Jodie, and John Davis (who replaced Charles after the first song)would record a song, and Rob & Fab would dance to it, lipsynch to it, and generally pretend to be the real singers. When women needed to be shown, such as in live concerts (which, by necessity, never had live singing), black women were hired to lipsynch to Jodie and Linda's vocals.



Rob & Fab lipsynching to "Girl You Know It's True"


The album was a big enough hit that Arista Records brought it over to the US, removing and remixing several songs and also overseeing the addition of some new ones - chiefly "Blame It on the Rain", a soulful breakup song featuring guest vocals from Joan Faulkner. The album had five singles released in America - "Girl You Know It's True", which hit #2, "Baby Don't Forget My Number", which went to #1, "Girl I'm Gonna Miss You", also a #1 hit, "Blame It on the Rain", the group's final #1, and "All or Nothing", which made it to #4. Rob & Fab were a phenomenon, and they began to party recklessly, experimenting with various drugs.

During a concert at Lake Compounce Amusement Park in Bristol, Connecticut, the two were performing "Girl You Know It's True" when the pre-recorded vocal track became stuck and began repeating the words "girl you know it's -" over and over. The two rushed offstage, and the media became suspicious. While it was obvious they'd been lipsynching, some reporters, noticing that Rob & Fab had heavy accents when speaking but apparently sung in perfect American English, began to suspect they were not even the ones singing on the record. Soon after, Charles Shaw revealed to the press that he had been one of the real voices in the song. He was paid off by Frank Farian and issued a retraction, claiming it had simply been a publicity stunt.

Despite the controversy, Milli Vanilli was nominated for and won the 1990 Grammy for Best New Artist, beating out other nominees such as the Indigo Girls and Tone Loc. Grammy statuettes were presented to Rob & Fab on air, but behind the scenes, Brad, John, Linda and Jodie also received statuettes, proving the Grammy committee was aware of who truly sang Milli Vanilli's music.



Rob & Fab holding their Grammy statuettes


When production started on a follow-up album, Rob & Fab, tired of lying to their fans, family, and friends, demanded to be allowed to sing, threatening to expose the truth to the press. Farian denied their request, and beat them to the punch. In November of 1990, Farian admitted to the press that Rob & Fab had not sung a note on any Milli Vanilli recordings. He proceeded to blame the entire affair on the duo. The press ate it up. Rob & Fab held their own press conference soon after, where they returned their Grammy statuettes and did their best to clear up some of the misconceptions (the real singers were also made to return their statuettes). The press would have none of it, and attacked them as frauds, charlatans, and talentless hacks. The Grammy committee denied having any knowledge of the deception and declared there was now no official winner of the 1990 Best New Artist award. Similarly, Arista Records denied knowing anything and proceeded to take Milli Vanilli's U.S. album out of print (making it the best selling album in history ever taken out of print). Milli Vanilli became a laughing stock.

Rob, addicted to drugs, wildly unpopular, and hearing threats that his adoptive family would disown him, attempted suicide soon after. He was saved and began working with Fab on a new album - one they'd actually sing on.

Meanwhile, Farian decided to release the second Milli Vanilli album in Europe, attempting to capitalize on the scandal. Along with Brad, John, Linda, and Jodie, Farian brought in Gina Mohammed, one of the women used in concerts to lipsynch to Linda and Jodie's vocals, and Ray Horton, a man who looked quite a bit like Rob. They did sing on the album, but were added as an afterthought. Gina mostly sung quietly along with the Rocco's voices, while Ray was allowed lead vocals on some songs but also shadowed many of Brad's vocals. Various other guest musicians were brought in for one or two songs each, including Tammy T, Icy Bro, B-Sho Rockin', and Joan Faulkner. The album was released as The Moment of Truth, and the cover featured Brad, John, Ray, Gina, and Icy Bro. Gina was also given credit for "lead" vocals on many songs, despite the fact it was actually nearly impossible to distinguish her voices from the Rocco's voices. Jodie and Linda were only credited with backup vocals in the liner notes. Around this same time, a sticker was added to the cover of the European version of the first album, purporting to name the real singers. John, Brad, and Charles were correctly credited. However, the sticker made no mention of Jodie or Linda, and instead claimed Gina had sung on the original album, despite the fact that she had not.



The cover of The Moment of Truth. Left to right: Brad Howell, Icy Bro, Ray Horton, Gina Mohammed, and John Davis.


The second album was not a big success in Europe, and due to the immensely negative public perception of Milli Vanilli in the USA, it was never released overseas. Of course, Frank Farian had another idea. He remixed several tracks from the second album, keeping the voices of Ray, Gina, Linda, and Jodie but mixing out Brad and John. He then hired Tracy Ganser, who looked a lot like Gina, and Kevin Weatherspoon, who looked remarkably similar to Fab, and had them record some vocals as well. The "new" group was named Try 'n' B, with Ray, Gina, Tracy, and Kevin on the cover, and their album was released in America to little success. Still, a different version of the album, which replaced many songs taken from The Moment of Truth with other songs that had been INTENDED for but cut from the same album, was released in Europe, once again to little or no success.



The cover of the US Try 'n' B album. Left to right: Tracy Ganser, Ray Horton, Gina Mohammed, and Kevin Weatherspoon.


Rob & Fab released the album with their real voices in early 1993. After a botched live performance on The Arsenio Hall Show, a talk show popular at the time, the public dismissed the release, assuming it would be terrible proof the duo couldn't sing. It didn't help that the album was the first (and only) release of Taj Records, a record label comprised of inexperienced employees who could only afford to print and distribute two thousand copies of the album. Despite some good reviews from critics, the album was a massive flop and bankrupted the label. Rob & Fab grew apart, and Rob's drug troubles continued to worsen. He was repeatedly arrested for assault and theft, and no salvation seemed to be in sight.



The cover of Rob & Fab's album featuring their real voices.


Around 1997, however, Frank Farian contacted Rob & Fab, offering to produce a comeback album under the Milli Vanilli name but featuring their real voices. Farian paid to send Rob through rehab repeatedly, and also got the duo additional professional vocal training. Meanwhile, VH1 premiered the show Behind the Music. The first episode was all about Milli Vanilli. Even better, it got huge ratings and included a mention of the upcoming album. Things were looking up, the album was recorded, and the promotional tour was about to begin. Then, in April of 1998, before the tour could start, Rob was found dead of a drug overdose in his hotel room. The album's release was canceled.

Fab is still alive today, with a low-profile career as a solo artist. He is currently working on a new album, and also consulting on a long-planned movie about Milli Vanilli's history. John Davis also continues to perform, having released a new album earlier this year. Jodie Rocco is now a nightclub reviewer and radio host living in Las Vegas. Her sister, Linda, is living in Germany where she continues to perform in vocal ensembles.
7  Samurai Pizza Cats / They Said What? - Archive / Re: They Said What!? 4-6 (Quote Mode) on: August 30, 2010, 01:36:37 am
And here's my choice for picture... TA-DAAAAA!
8  General Discussion / Off-Topic Discussion / Re: What are you listening to? on: August 22, 2010, 06:11:35 pm
"Ding Dong" by Try N B from their 1992 album Sexy Eyes.

It's a TERRIBLE song, but it's stuck in my head so firmly...
9  Samurai Pizza Cats / General SPC Discussion / Re: SPC Live Action Movie on: August 20, 2010, 01:11:38 am
I agree - a live action adaptation really wouldn't work. I mean, they tried Dragonball and The Last Airbender recently, and neither of those turned out well. Or decent, actually.
10  Samurai Pizza Cats / General SPC Discussion / Re: How did you find this forum? on: August 17, 2010, 07:59:19 pm
I did a search on Google for "Samurai Pizza Cats Forum". This was the only real result.
11  Samurai Pizza Cats / Fan Works / Re: Samurai Pizza Cats X! on: August 16, 2010, 04:33:48 am
Speaking as someone who, *ahem*, actually read the whole thing, I have to say I was pleasantly surprised. The script format is often seen as a crutch for people who aren't good at describing things, but I think you made it work. There were a few typos, but nothing worse than I've seen in actual published scripts. Most importantly, though, I think you really captured the spirit of the show. Even though it had a bit of retconning, it FELT like something that could be an actual episode. I laughed out loud quite a few times (my favorite part had to be Jerry and Big Cheese discussing their ideal, settled-down lives).

I agree the title could use some work... with the wit you displayed in the piece itself, I'm sure you could come up with something more creative than sticking an "X" on the end of the title. Overall, I was pretty happy with this. Good job!
12  Samurai Pizza Cats / SPC Episode Reviews Board / Re: SPC 10 - Hot and Cold Kitties on: August 15, 2010, 12:22:11 am
You are just sad Speedy lost the first battle!


Actually, that was my favorite part. Ninja Crows need more respect!
13  Samurai Pizza Cats / Fan Works / Re: Some SPC Icons on: August 13, 2010, 01:39:21 am
Ah, sorry, you need to right click and "save as". They have variable sizes, being icons.
14  Samurai Pizza Cats / Fan Works / Some SPC Icons on: August 12, 2010, 08:37:34 pm
These are some icons I made out of screenshots from Samurai Pizza Cats. And yes, I actually use them on my desktop.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9426967/Bad%20Bird1.ico

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9426967/Bad%20Bird3.ico

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9426967/Bad%20Bird4.ico

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9426967/Bad%20Bird5.ico
15  Samurai Pizza Cats / Fan Works / Re: UFAlien's Fanfic Thread on: August 12, 2010, 10:59:20 am
Well it does take the sentence up to eleven.
16  Samurai Pizza Cats / General SPC Discussion / Re: Cutest Female Cat from SPC on: August 12, 2010, 10:57:43 am
It's a sort of yellowish-green. I don't actually like the way it looks all that much, it's just fun to say.
17  General Discussion / Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Photos thread on: August 12, 2010, 10:57:01 am
Hey you! No self-depreciation!

It took me like, 13 tries to get these pictures that looked decent. And then I Photoshopped out the acne. So don't worry, I just have more free time XD
18  Samurai Pizza Cats / SPC Episode Reviews Board / SPC 10 - Hot and Cold Kitties on: August 12, 2010, 05:40:12 am
So I just finished watching this one, leftover pizza in hand. And eventually stomach, but hey, we all know how the digestive system works.

I wouldn't put this episode on my favorites list, but it was solidly entertaining. The "weather machine" plot isn't exactly original, but I suppose it doesn't really need to be since the whole show is a parody. The ninja crows (or, apparently, "Birdbrain Battalion") got a lot of action in this episode, even successfully capturing Speedy. Bad Bird also seemed... more evil than usual. His admiration for the kidnapping plot and his declaration that the good guys wouldn't win while he was alive seemed surprisingly dark for his character.

Big Cheese is still a whiny, arrogant fool whose plans never really make sense, so no big change there. For once, though, he's actually out in the field and away from Jerry, who's not even in the episode.

The episode had some pretty funny jokes, my personal favorite being a reference to Kurosawa films such as Seven Samurai. The fourth wall was broken a lot less often than usual, it seemed, and there was no narration over Speedy's stock Ginzu sword sequence, which made it feel like it dragged on a bit too long for me.

Overall, it wasn't a bad episode, but certainly not one of the better ones I've seen, either. I'd give it around a 6.5/10.
19  Samurai Pizza Cats / Fan Works / Re: UFAlien's Fanfic Thread on: August 12, 2010, 04:29:08 am
It's only awkward if YOU think of it that way, Darc.  Wink

Besides, I'm pretty sure "awkward" isn't really the word you want to use, is it?
20  General Discussion / Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Photos thread on: August 12, 2010, 04:12:49 am
Oh come on, I'm not THAT ugly. I used soft lighting and everything! XD
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