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Author Topic: Tatsuya Souma's KNT manga translation  (Read 391679 times)
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« on: November 02, 2006, 08:51:14 am »

I'm starting here this topic, where the main goal is the translation of the Souma's manga. I'll post the translated texts here, and shall expect your help for revising and answering some doubts. Needless to say I hope everybody's help as English isn't my native language. This is an experience of an open way of working (Project Dream adopts a more closed approach), let's see how things will go. No promises about schedule, this project will be carried out in parallel alongside Project Dream, so probably will took a long time until its conclusion. This is not my first attempt of KNT manga translation, but they weren't announced here because are intended to mature readers (if you are interested in, please contact Violet to join Nihonbare board).

Thanks to Methid Man, who did the scans available to us.

Starting the translation:

Page 01
Left   "Kyattou Ninden Teyandee"
Right   "Souma Tatsuya"
Page 02
Note: this page is an index, I'll not translate it all. At the center is written: "Collected works of Tatsuya Souma". Besides KNT, two more mangas are mentioned: "Zettai muteki rainjinoo" and "Genji tsuushin agedama". Perhaps the book cover (which isn't present in the scans) would bring more infos.
Page 03
Title   "Kyattou Ninden Teyandee"
Subtitle   "Dai ichi wa"
EN      "First volume"
Page 04
Frame 1
Right box   "Nokke kara setsumei shiyou. Kono sakuhin wa Kyattou Ninden Teyandee de aru-"
EN      "Let me start explaining here. This work is Kyattou Ninden Teyandee."
Left box   "Soshite hanashi wa koko chikyuu no sainantan nankyoku kara hajimaru."
EN      "Further, this story begins at the southmost point of the Earth, the South Pole."
Frame 2
Sound   "Kirahh"
EN   "Flash!"
Frame 3
Sound   "Kiiiin"
EN   [sound of something entering atmosphere]
Frame 4
Sound   "Zudohh"
EN   [sound of something falling and penetrating the soil]
Frame 5
Sound   "Zu zu zu zu..."
EN   [crackle]
Note: I'm no good in English onomatopoeias, and in the later page there are lots of them. Help me, please!

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« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2006, 09:46:38 am »

Awesome! A translation of the Teyandeh manga is finally under way! ^_^

Don't worry too much about the onomatopoeia, just do what they do in Shonen Jump and translate the kanji sound effects into romaji. :3

BTW, are you using my scans or do you have your own copy?

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« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2006, 10:54:12 am »

Awesome! A translation of the Teyandeh manga is finally under way! ^_^
I'm glad you liked it.  Speedy Wink
Don't worry too muchftp:// about the onomatopoeia, just do what they do in Shonen Jump and translate the kanji sound effects into romaji. :3
OK, but I'm still open for any suggestion anyway. Everybody may post suggestion or error correction.
BTW, are you using my scans or do you have your own copy?
I don't own a copy of this manga Sad. Anyway, thanks for sharing the scans.  Wink
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« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2006, 05:42:11 pm »

Ooh, great new project! I'll be sure to follow the topic and share any suggestions for revising the English that I can come up with. Thanks a lot, Daisensei!
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« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2006, 08:15:16 pm »

Glad to know my scans came in handy! ^_^

If there's any kanji you can't quite make out, lemme know and I'll scan it under a higher resolution. ;3

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« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2006, 06:56:14 am »

This should also be a good opportunity for those who would love to learn how to translation Japanese text into English. Does anyone still use the table in Vi's website, or is there a simpler version to take each letter and turn it to English?

http://members.aol.com/PrncssVi/lessons/01/lesson01.html
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« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2006, 03:02:04 pm »

This should also be a good opportunity for those who would love to learn how to translation Japanese text into English. Does anyone still use the table in Vi's website, or is there a simpler version to take each letter and turn it to English?

http://members.aol.com/PrncssVi/lessons/01/lesson01.html
Actually my mother tongues are Portuguese and Japanese, so I'm not as good as with English.
I put on my website tables of kana<->rômaji conversion table, see the links therein. The most tricky part of Japanese translation isn't the kana reading though, but of the kanji characters (there are thousands of them).
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« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2006, 05:44:11 pm »

The most tricky part of Japanese translation isn't the kana reading though, but of the kanji characters (there are thousands of them).
Yikes!

i'd love to help, but i only know a tiny bit of japanese and a handful of kanji
that's what i get for taking it in highschool...
but i'll give you guys tons of moral support!
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« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2006, 07:52:03 am »

Page 05
Frame 1
Box   "Sara ni setsumei wo tsuzuke you. Tokoro kawatte koko wa fukkou mezamashii Edoropolis"
EN   "Explaining further, this another place is Edoropolis, whose rebuilding is proceeding brightly."
Frame 2
Box   "Soshite ai mo kawarazu Piza Kyatto de shigoto wo shiteiru warera ga shujinkou Yattarou"
EN   "Working at Pizza Cats as always, here is our main character, Yattarou."
Yattarou   "Haa..."
Frame 3
Yattarou   "Kyou mo OEDO wa nihonbare... ka"
EN      "Today it's a beautiful day in OEDO (Edoropolis)... it seems."
Frame 4
Karamaru   "Nani wo son'na ni shogetenda Puutarousan!"
EN   "Why are you so dishartened, Puutarou-san!"
Sound of Karamaru tapping Yattarou:      "Den"
EN                  "Tap"
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« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2006, 12:49:44 am »

It's great that you're doing this, Daisensai!  Now, people like me (that don't know a lick of Japanese) will be able to experience the manga.

If you'd like, I could make some sugestions (or even keep a seperate document with my suggestions for flow).

By the way, do you have some one editing this into the scans?
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« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2006, 06:27:40 am »

It's great that you're doing this, Daisensai!  Now, people like me (that don't know a lick of Japanese) will be able to experience the manga.

If you'd like, I could make some sugestions (or even keep a seperate document with my suggestions for flow).

By the way, do you have some one editing this into the scans?
Your suggestions or corrections are very welcomed, please post here. I understand very well Japanese, but feel dificulties for translating in English My other mother tongue is Portuguese, so my English text is somewhat contaminated with Portuguese syntax and orthography. Embarrassed Therefore any help is valuable.

In my knowledge no one is editing the translations to the scans, but everybody may feel free to do. Besides, I should be very thankful if anyone could edit the Portuguese translation too (it is available in the Portuguese board).
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« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2006, 06:21:41 pm »

One more page done. Enjoy, friends! Speedy Wink

Page 06
Frame 1
Yattarou   "Nanda Karamaru ka... genki sou da na..."
EN   "Oh, it's you Karamaru... you seems lively"
Right letters   "Doroon" (sound employed in awful situation, for example when ghost appears)
Left letters   "Puutarou tte no yamete kun'nai"
EN   "Stop to call me Puutarou"
Karamaru   "Kishoku warui yatcha na"
EN   "How creepy is this guy."
Frame 2
Karamaru (right)   "De doushita?"
EN         "What happened?"
Karamaru (left)   "Itsumo nara pantsu icho de houchou furi mawashitere yatsu ga ochikonderu taa rashiku naize"
EN         "I don't believe am seeing a guy like you, who usually brandishes knife dressing only underpants, feeling depressed."
Yattarou   "N'nakoto suru wake needarohh"
EN      "I don't do such thing."
Yattarou   "Teyandee shiranai dokusha ga gokai suru daro!"
EN      "Who never has watched 'Teyandee' will be misled!"
Frame 3
Karamaru   "Saikin omee okashii zo. Ittai doushitatte iunda?"
EN      "Lately you have been strange. What is going on?"
Yattarou   "Fuhh. Ima no omae ni ittemo wakarenee darou na."
EN      "Fuhh. I doubt you could nowadays understand my feelings."
Note:   "Fuhh" is an interjection denoting Yattarou isn't trusting on Karamaru, underestimating him.
Frame 4
Words at right   "Aa... eikou no hibi"
EN      "Ah... the days of glory"
Karamaru   "Koitsu damatteru to bukimi da na..."
EN      "When silent, this guy becomes creepy..."
Words at left   "oira no ichiban kagayaita toki. Shikashi... ima ya hitobito wa Nyankii no koto nado boukyaku no kanata e to oiyarou to sae shite iru..."
EN      "the days I have sparkled most. Nevertheless... now people are even throwing away Nyankii into the farthest zones of the oblivion..."
Frame 5
Yattarou   "Fuhh"
Note:   "Fuhh" is an interjection denoting Yattarou isn't trusting on Karamaru, as underestimating him.
Karamaru   "Aa... hontou ni okkanee koitsu."
EN      "Ah. He is really frightening."
Okara's voice   "Karamarusaa..."
Words at left   "Demae itte koyo"
EN      "I'll return to the deliveries"
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« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2006, 10:59:54 pm »

Aww, poor Yattarou.  Sad
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« Reply #13 on: November 19, 2006, 02:09:06 pm »

Aww, poor Yattarou.  Sad
Yeah, and things will be worse further!  Yikes!
Page 07
Frame 1
Karamaru   "Ou Okara ka dou shitai"
EN      "Oh, Okara, what happened?"
Okara's footsteps   "Pekyo pekyo"
Frame 2
Okara   "Karamarusaa hankachi wasurete itta dayo"
EN   "Karamarusaa, you left forgetting handkerchief."
Karamaru   "Ikenee tsui ukkari shiteta ze"
EN      "Oh no, I was careless."
Frame 3
Right "Karamaru omae mo kawatta na. Izen no omae wa"
EN   "Karamaru, you have changed. Once..."
Karamaru (right)   "Nin no michi ni nasake wa muyou!"
EN         "In the way of ninja compassion is unnecessary."
Karamaru (left)   "Irokoi goto ni utsutsu wo nukashite ninja ga tsutomaru kahh"
EN         "Being infatuated by love affair one couldn't act as a ninja."
Laughs near Karamaru's mouth   "Kanra kanra"
Left   "Naante itteta no ni"
EN   "... thus you would say.
Frame 4
Box   "Shikashi ima no Karamaru ga aru nowa jibun ga kikkake de atta koto nado tou no Yattarou wa wasurete ita!"
EN   "However Yattarou has now forgotten that was himself whom motivated Karamaru's change.
Left   "Oira mono oboe warui kara..."
EN   "My learning isn't good..."
Frame 5
Otama   "Aa isogashi isogashii..."
EN   "Ah, I'm busy, busy..."
Yattarou   "N?"
EN      "Hu?"
Otama's footsteps   "Do do do do do"
Frame 6
Yattarou   "Aa Otama..."
EN      "Ah, Otama..."
Otama (right)   "Kono tochi uru nara ima ga chansu"
EN      "If you want to sell this plot of land, now is the chance."
Otama (center)   "Tasha yori takaku kaitorasete morai masuhh nochi nochi made mendou battiri."
EN      "Our prices are better than other companies, and we still take care even for far future."
Otama (left)   "Ima nara otoku na ban'nou houchou 3 ten setto wo otsuke shite orimaasu."
EN      "Moreover, for now we are adding a profitable set of 3 all-purpose knives."
Words at left   "Kore wa benri desu nee"
EN      "They are useful."
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« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2006, 01:23:16 am »

Interesting...so Fran, er, Otama was selling land...

This is so cool, it's all coming to me now. Like unravelling a mystery. ^_^

BTW, a couple of lines I'd like to mention...

"In the way of ninja compassion is unnecessary."
"Being infatuated by love affair one couldn't act as a ninja."

Did these quotes come from the KNT series by any chance?

Also, I'll see if I can Photoshop these translations into my scans. I'll have to edit some bits of text to make them more suitable for American understanding. I hope you won't mind, Daisensei.

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« Reply #15 on: November 20, 2006, 03:00:46 am »

I'll have to edit some bits of text to make them more suitable for American understanding. I hope you won't mind, Daisensei.
That was one of the reasons for the topic, actually. To get suggestions for revising the text. So I'm certain he won't mind. Wink
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« Reply #16 on: November 20, 2006, 04:55:04 am »

I'll have to edit some bits of text to make them more suitable for American understanding. I hope you won't mind, Daisensei.
That was one of the reasons for the topic, actually. To get suggestions for revising the text. So I'm certain he won't mind. Wink
Yes you may change the text as necessary before editing. As I already have said, I expect suggestions and corrections. Besides editing in the scans, please post the changes here, so I can merge them into my text document.
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« Reply #17 on: November 21, 2006, 03:25:09 am »

I'll have to edit some bits of text to make them more suitable for American understanding. I hope you won't mind, Daisensei.
That was one of the reasons for the topic, actually. To get suggestions for revising the text. So I'm certain he won't mind. Wink
Yes you may change the text as necessary before editing. As I already have said, I expect suggestions and corrections. Besides editing in the scans, please post the changes here, so I can merge them into my text document.

Doh! >_< I should've read this closer.
If you gentlemen don't mind, I went though the current translation Daisensei has supplied, and came up with something that I thought sounded a little more smooth.

I'm sorry if it seems like I'm stepping on toes, and swear it's not my intention. In fact maybe I've done too many changes.  Sad

I'll post what I've done. It's nothing special, just a little something from a dude with too much time.
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« Reply #18 on: November 21, 2006, 03:29:00 am »

Page 01
Title: “Kyattou Ninden Teyandee”
Author: “Souma Tatsuya”

Page 02
Index (Untranslated)

Page 03

Title: “Kyattou Ninden Teyandee”
Volume: “First Volume”

Page 04
Frame 1

Narrator: “Let me start off by explaining our little setting here… This manga is Kyattou Ninden Teyandee. (For those of you who avoided the title.)”
Narrator: “Further more… this story begins at the most southern point of Earth… the south pole.

Frame 2
SFX: “Flash!”

Frame 3
SFX: “Frrrooossshhhh!”

Frame 4
SFX: “CRASH!!!”

Frame 5
SFX: “Crackle…”

Page 05
Frame 1

Narrator: “More about that later… Here we see the city of Edoropolis. It’s rebuilding quite nicely!

Frame 2
Narrator: “Here we see Yattarou, always faithfully working hard at the Pizza Cat.”
Yattarou: “Hmmmm…”

Frame 3
Yattarou: “It’s a beautiful day in Ol’ Edo…”

Frame 4
Karamaru: “What’s the problem Puutarou-san!?”
SFX: “WHACK!”

Page 06
Frame 1

Yattarou: “Oh it’s you Karamaru… You seem… happy…”
SFX: “Wind blowing across a open plain.”
Yattarou: “Don’t call me Puutarou-san.”
Karamaru: “Ok… that came out of nowhere.”

Frame 2
Karamaru: “Ok… What’s wrong?”
Karamaru: “I can’t believe I’m seeing a guy who usually waves swords around while only wearing underpants depressed!”
Yattarou: “I don’t do that!”
Yattarou: “Folks who haven’t watched ‘Teyandee’ will get the wrong idea!”

Frame 3
Karamaru: “Lately you’ve been acting strange… What’s the problem?”
Yattarou: “Hrmph! I doubt you could understand my feelings!”

Frame 4
Yattarou’s Thoughts: “Ahh… My glory days…”
Karamaru’s Thoughts: “What is he doing?”
Yattarou’s Thoughts: “They were days where I sparkled most… Yet… Now the people don’t need the Nyankii. They’re throwing us away like a used towel...”

Frame 5
Yattarou: “Hrmph…”
Karamaru: “You’ve got issues…”
Okara’s Voice: “Karamarusaa…!”
Karamaru Mumbles: “I’m going back to work…”

Page 07
Frame 1

Karamaru: “Oh Okara! What’s wrong?”
SFX: “Tap tap tap~”

Frame 2
Okara: “Karamarusaa, you forgot your handkerchief…”
Karamaru: “Hah hah! Whoopse!”

Frame 3
Yattarou’s Thoughts: “Karamaru, you have changed…”
Yattarou’s thinking of old Karamaru: “In the way of the ninja, compassion isn’t needed!”
Yattarou’s thinking of old Karamaru: “While being in love, one can’t act as a ninja…”
Yattarou’s Thoughts: “That’s what you would have said…”

Frame 4
Narrator: “Yattarou has obviously forgotten that it was himself who started Karamaru’s change…”
Yattarou: “I never learn…”

Frame 5
Otama: “Busy busy busy~”
SFX: “Pitter patter pitter patter pitter patter”

Frame 6
Yattarou: “Oh… Otama…”
Otama (Right): If you want to sell this section of land, now is your chance!”
Otama (Center): Our prices are better than others, and we offer great warranties!”
Otama (Left): If you act now, you’ll also get a great set of knives!”
Otama: They’re pretty useful~ *Heart Symbol*

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« Reply #19 on: November 21, 2006, 04:57:23 am »

I've been putting off coming up with suggestions for a while, but I'm about to go to sleep. However, before I do, I do have one line I have a suggestion on.

Page 5
Frame 3
Yattarou: "Kyou mo OEDO wa nihonbare... ka"
(English): "Today's a beautiful day in O-Edo... I guess."

Based on my limited understanding of Japanese, it seems that the "ka" tacked onto the end of the sentence basically means he's questioning the previous statement. There's lots of ways this could be put into English, but since the point seems to be expressing how Yattarou's feeling down, I believe something unenthusiastic like "I guess" would be fitting.
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