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Topic: Differences between KNT and SPC (Read 79999 times)
BurkeWorld
Re: Differences between KNT and SPC
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April 08, 2006, 08:46:42 pm »
Bad Kyo! Bad!
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QuickSlashSpeedy
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Ninja Crow
Posts: 6
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Re: Differences between KNT and SPC
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Reply #21 on:
April 21, 2006, 07:52:46 pm »
Quote from: Puutarou on July 23, 2005, 01:51:54 pm
Yeah, when they cut stuff like this it makes the show confusing.
I'm really upset that Speedy kissing Guido on the cheek was cut out, but Speedy kissing the Big Cheese on the mouth was left in? WTF!?
I must have missed that part. Speedy liked Luciel (spell?), and Polly it seemed, but, I didn't see any male kissing. So, does that make him bi or something?
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D-Mac
Posts: 530
Re: Differences between KNT and SPC
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April 21, 2006, 11:51:29 pm »
Quote from: QuickSlashSpeedy on April 21, 2006, 07:52:46 pm
I must have missed that part. Speedy liked Luciel (spell?), and Polly it seemed, but, I didn't see any male kissing. So, does that make him bi or something?
It was in KNT's version of
Gender Bender Butterflies
, when a butterfly landed on Speedy and turned him "feminine".
Take that however you wish.
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Re: Differences between KNT and SPC
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April 22, 2006, 05:08:32 pm »
I never saw Gender Bender Butterflies.
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Daisensei
KNT eps translator
Posts: 1136
Kyou no washi wa kakkou iinou!
Re: Differences between KNT and SPC
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Reply #24 on:
April 22, 2006, 07:05:11 pm »
The KNT (Japanese) version of
Gender Bender Butterflies
is
KNT 25 - Kawaî? Yattarô onna ni naru
, available at
Supersonic's FTP
.
The episode where
kisses
is
Let the Cellar Beware
or its KNT counterpart, if my memory isn't betraying me.
EDIT: sorry, the tile of KNT 25 was wrong.
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KageReneko
Nyanki
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The Shaman Pizza Cat
Re: Differences between KNT and SPC
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April 23, 2006, 02:47:07 pm »
Quote from: Daisensei on October 17, 2005, 11:32:34 am
Just look the scene when the Nyankee is trapped in the barrels and Yattarô makes OmiChan gets mad... She looks so cuuuuuuuuuute!!!!
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KunimasaKunimasaOiOiOi
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Re: Differences between KNT and SPC
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August 01, 2006, 09:18:42 pm »
Okay, okay.
I just finished watching episode 1 of KNT, and I actually like the American cartoon better. Most of the time, I find US-dubbing and modification crap (as evident in G Gundam), but I REALLY like SPC better. Then again, I saw the series originally as SPC, but I found SPC to be much funnier.
Although I did find it funny when Ko'on-no-Kami-sama called Wanko-no-Kami a homo (how ironic, because I'm a huge supporter of gay rights).
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Mechadon
The Xenocide
Nyanki
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Re: Differences between KNT and SPC
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August 01, 2006, 10:49:51 pm »
It's also ironic considering Ko'on-no-Kami is the cross dressing freak.
Thanks for pointing out my mistake Kunimasa.
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KunimasaKunimasaOiOiOi
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Re: Differences between KNT and SPC
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August 02, 2006, 04:40:00 pm »
Quote from: Mechadon on August 01, 2006, 10:49:51 pm
It's also ironic considering Wanko-no-Kami is the cross dressing freak.
Isn't Wanko-no-Kami Big Al?
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Violet
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But it's a cute iron fist.
Re: Differences between KNT and SPC
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August 03, 2006, 12:05:10 am »
Quote from: KunimasaKunimasaOiOiOi on August 01, 2006, 09:18:42 pm
Okay, okay.
I just finished watching episode 1 of KNT, and I actually like the American cartoon better. Most of the time, I find US-dubbing and modification crap (as evident in G Gundam), but I REALLY like SPC better. Then again, I saw the series originally as SPC, but I found SPC to be much funnier.
Although I did find it funny when Ko'on-no-Kami-sama called Wanko-no-Kami a homo (how ironic, because I'm a huge supporter of gay rights).
I like both, but I do think SPC is funnier than KNT. It doesn't take itself seriously, doesn't worry about making sense, its all just goofy and fun.
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KunimasaKunimasaOiOiOi
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Re: Differences between KNT and SPC
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August 04, 2006, 01:21:17 pm »
Quote from: Violet on August 03, 2006, 12:05:10 am
Quote from: KunimasaKunimasaOiOiOi on August 01, 2006, 09:18:42 pm
Okay, okay.
I just finished watching episode 1 of KNT, and I actually like the American cartoon better. Most of the time, I find US-dubbing and modification crap (as evident in G Gundam), but I REALLY like SPC better. Then again, I saw the series originally as SPC, but I found SPC to be much funnier.
Although I did find it funny when Ko'on-no-Kami-sama called Wanko-no-Kami a homo (how ironic, because I'm a huge supporter of gay rights).
I like both, but I do think SPC is funnier than KNT. It doesn't take itself seriously, doesn't worry about making sense, its all just goofy and fun.
Totally!
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adam808
Nyanki
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Jyarei monsutaa
Re: Differences between KNT and SPC
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August 06, 2006, 12:40:09 am »
SPC is what I remember fondly, KNT is a newer interest. Getting back into SPC/KNT did get me more interested in anime.
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littlebadwolf
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Re: Differences between KNT and SPC
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September 05, 2006, 10:25:13 pm »
Having now watched the subtitled version of the first episode (thanks to Daisensei, Tigriss & co), I think some of the differences have abundantly made themselves clear.
1. KNT is a light-hearted action-adventure; Samurai Pizza Cats is a comedy. While KNT has its share of sight gags and the occasional quip, it takes the action portions of the show very seriously, and some characters, like Big Al and Bad Bird, are almost wooden in comparison with their English counterparts. It's clear that the show uses a lot of stock footage, but while KNT seems to gloss over the fact, Samurai Pizza Cats revels in it, and shoves it in the viewers' faces.
The gags are far more rapid-fire in the English version. In the first episode, Big Al says that the fate of Edoropolis is in Nyanki's hands now, or something to that effect, in the Japanese version, while in English, he wonders if he should have ordered some food from the Pizza Cats, since he was already talking to them. Or, another example, Guido calling out the name of his attack in the original version compared to, "Hey, guys, remember the 60's?" when twirling his umbrella.
2. The narrator. The Japanese narrator simply exists to fill in the gaps in the story, or occasionally explain what's happening to the audience. By comparison, Terrence Scammell's English narrator becomes more involved with the plot, to the point where he's having conversations and arguments with the heroes and villains. In Samurai Pizza Cats, the narrator is himself a character in the program. Not to mention the fact that he has a lot more lines in general, something that's easy to do when the "character" doesn't ever have to be on-screen.
3. Puns. In a lot of ways, Samurai Pizza Cats is a more faithful adaptation than a lot of Japanese-to-English translations. Why? Simply because the puns are actual puns in our language. Instead of a direct translation of the Japanese double entendres, which, in many cases, renders them somewhat humorless, the writers gave the characters names which are funny in English, like Polly Esther and Jerry Atrick. This is truer to the spirit of the original rather than the content, but it's still an interesting difference, especially when compared to some of the Japanese names (Yattaro, Pururun Nyan, etc.).
...Maybe I'll think of some more later.
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Nyanki
Posts: 214
Re: Differences between KNT and SPC
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Quote from: littlebadwolf on September 05, 2006, 10:25:13 pm
Terrence Scammell
Is that the Narrator's voice actor?
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adam808
Nyanki
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Jyarei monsutaa
Re: Differences between KNT and SPC
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September 07, 2006, 12:35:29 pm »
Definitely can't blame them for changing the names. The idea with SPC wasn't being technically accurate to the original but preserving and adding humor. Otherwise it would have been lost in translation. Thanks for the creativity, SPC writers.
I still want to see all the KNT episodes translated, though. Unlike when I was a younger (like 12) or not really an anime-style fan (rather a cartoons in general fan), the original dialogue of KNT might now interest me. I didn't really get into anime until after rediscovering SPC and it's Japanese counterpart.
My only pizza cats shirt is of the front cover of the KNT BGM CD. Wearing it right now.
That's my favorite funny quote of KNT, the "bad bad." I laughed so hard the first time I heard that. One of my screenames is bbyab808 which equals badbadyouarebad808
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felineki
Nyanki
Posts: 1409
Re: Differences between KNT and SPC
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September 07, 2006, 12:37:19 pm »
The narrator still does interact with the cast in KNT, although not nearly as much as in SPC.
Quote from: Burke World on April 08, 2006, 08:46:42 pm
Bad Kyo! Bad!
Burkey
Bad! BAD! You are BAD!
(Sorry, couldn't help myself. If you've seen the KNT version of Mission to Manhattan, you'll understand
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littlebadwolf
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Re: Differences between KNT and SPC
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Reply #36 on:
September 07, 2006, 09:22:17 pm »
From what I understand, Terrence Scammell played the narrator, Guido, Jerry, and Emperor Fred. I think that's why he's listed first in the credits.
What I like about the localization is that they changed so much that we basically have two different shows, here.
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Re: Differences between KNT and SPC
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September 07, 2006, 10:42:54 pm »
Terrence Scammell did...
Guido Anchovie, The Narrator, Jerry Atrick, Bat Cat, Emporer Fred Tokugawa, Cannonball Battalay, and Cosmo
Plus some other minor roles that I might have missed.
He is the most awesome of the voice actors IMO.
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littlebadwolf
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Re: Differences between KNT and SPC
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September 07, 2006, 11:11:51 pm »
Wow! Even more than I thought!
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Re: Differences between KNT and SPC
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September 08, 2006, 05:19:31 pm »
SPC: The KNT parody!
That says all-_0
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