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When watching and gathering info on SPC, I notice slight hints on possible relationships between the characters and so, this is for all to discuss opinions of couples within the pizza cat universe and why (if possible).

Apart from Carla & Bad Bird, here is my list and the last three is sorta like a draw (know what I mean)?

1. Seymour & Jerry Atrick] - When their eyes go cutesy bug-like, it is poetry in motion. Like it or not, these two have the right attitude of a love/hate relationship with Jerry is the man.
These two share each other's pains and loyalty, well Jerry's that is.
They even sang togather in the baseball episode.
Not your run-of-the-mill couple of course, but there is definate chemistry between the two villains.

Expect more couples from me soon.

Back when my old website was still being maintained, I had a page devoted to the relationship between Speedy and Polly.  It's not much to look at--one of the Geocities accounts I used for image hosting was shut down, so some images are broken--and it wasn't written very well.  The page was created sometime in 1999, and my skill with language has much improved in the last six years.

Interested parties can find the page right here (http://www.geocities.com/jonas_miles/relationships.html).

Somebody actually liked the idea of the Guido/Francine pairing?  Goodness, I'm flattered.  ;)

But part of me wishes I had never written that story.  It was so pretentious and snooty that it's not funny.  :O

As much as I like the Speedy/Polly pairing, I tend to like the Guido/Polly pairing better. The hints aren't as noticeable as the other couples, but they are still there.

I hadn't seen the episodes in a long time, so my memory is a bit vague and correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't there were a number of times where Guido actually seemed to care more about Polly's well being then Speedy caring about her, and vice-versa. In a lot of scenes that didn't include Lucille you'd always see the two of them together. Polly also tends to tolerate Guido more so then Speedy, but then again it could be a sign to of just close friendship. However, even though there are two or three episodes where Polly is overly concerned for Speedy, they don't even compare to the number of episodes where Polly and Guido showed concern for each other.

Wish I could remember the episodes for more definte hints... but alas, I can't and have yet to download and watch them again.

i think Bad/Good Bird is better off with Carla. they've known each other since childhood, and they made a vow of love back then.

as for Polly, i think Speedy goes best with her. what i can't understand, though, is why Saban attempted to cover up the fact that the two were being drawn closer to each other until the end. of course, in the KNT version, he [Yattarou] didn't really confess his love for her [Pururun]; i recall reading text that Tigriss mentioned some time ago, and so i watched the last KNT episode to find out what she meant. i could hear Yattarou say something like, "Can I ask you something?", then after Pururun says "yes", he says, "Could I borrow 1,000 yen?"  :P

The dubbing was probably handled episode-by-episode; without any transcripts to work from, it would have been a very laborious process, what with the new writing and lip-synching and all.  I think the writers probably didn't watch the series from start-to-finish before they started the dub work, and so when they hit the final episode--with the heavy emphasis on Speedy and Polly--they were sort of stuck.  They had to address the relationship as an unavoidable plot point, but going back to re-dub the other episodes would have effectively meant starting over from scratch.

Ooh, quite an interesting thread this is.  :)

Throughout the english version of the show at least (of course excluding the Comet Caper), I felt that there was much more teasing of a Polly/Guido relationship then there was of a Polly/Speedy one. However, it seems to me that Guido likes Polly more than Polly likes him.

I'll think I'll write a few points to add to the idea of  =] + ;], some of which may already be on Sinder's old site.

• Guido and Polly spend a good bit of time together as the pilots of the Supreme Catatonic, which happens to be where we hear Guido's thought "When she takes over she's sorta... sexy." in Those Transformin' Felines. He's apparently somewhat attracted to her.
  
• I do agree that Polly usually seems more tolerant of Guido's action than she is of Speedy, though she seemed highly annoyed by Guido's antics in Cold and Crabby In Little Tokyo, with him convincing her that Speedy and Bad Bird were brothers, and him using his, um... "Stale Kitty Litter" attack right next to her, causing poor Polly to pass out! :O A real gentleman, that Guido... ::)
• I thought Guido's "When this show's over, we should get married and start a family." line from Emperor Fred Does Hard Time was very interesting. It would have been an extremely momentous line in the series, had it not been used in such a jokey fashion.
  

I remember that scene and if hadn't been for a intervening Guido, Polly would have throttled Speedy for joking with her during her most tender emotional state yet.
When you first watch the show, Speedy was more likely to be the last person Polly would ever love, but then
Oppossites attract.

Polly tends to be jealous when the boys favor Lucille than her, it's a wonder of how she is friends with her.
This starts three love triangles familiar in the series. The first one is a one-man-upship rivalry.

Speedy & Lucille & Guido - Speedy obviously loves the cute ram and tries his best to win her affection and
                                               its a balance in which he succeded or not.
                                               There were occasionally scenes that they share togather like the ending of
                                               the "Rude Noise search for SPC" episode where they watch the sunset.
                                               The Great comet caper had Speedy in deep thought and Luciile probably
                                               understood his advances and return them back, but was heartbroken when
                                               Speedy appeared to love Polly better.
                                               Speedy goes through barriars to win Lucille, but the most gruelling has to be
                                               his best friend and rival: Guido.

                                               Despite me liking the Guido/Francine couple better, I can't help but notice
                                               this pair as featured in fanfics and small hints in the show and manga.
                                               Gudo is obviously a self-proclaimed Casanova, but a few woman take his
                                               advances seriously and that includes Lucille. Unlike Speedy, Guido rarely has
                                               bad luck charming her, despite him being a serious worker at the pizza
                                               parlour and flirting when on delivery or break.
                                               It is hard to tell whether Guido showing off to Speedy or he like Lucille alot.
                                               But there are good scenes like at the first episode where Guido flirts with her
                                               using the combo of a pizza and a rose, the Big Cheese seeking movie stardom
                                               episode where she sees him as a future star, but worries about being
                                               forgotten amongst fans until Guido, in a nice scene says he will never forget
                                               about her.
                                               A lot of hints about this pair, although they are always interuptted by Speedy
                                               and likewise.
 
More on the two remaining triangles soon and I like to thank D-Mac for his approval of this thread.

Thank you D-Mac.

Awww....thanks D-Mac! You put it in much better words then I did! *huggles*

A long while ago, someone made the point that whenever the cats are generally in trouble, Guido and Polly will often cry out each other's name (while no one cares about poor Speedy).  You can find examples of this, but you have to be fairly thorough; one of these occurs in the episode with Lucille's brother Wally.  When Guido is picked up by the robot and mashed into a rice ball, Polly calls out to him (and quickly covers her mouth because she realizes her breath reeks of fish).  ;]

On a different note, one of the reasons that I supported Guido/Francine was due to my age at the time.  I was 14 or 15 years old when Crimson Dawn was penned, and I had never been in a romantic relationship.  That's why the romance in the story was as over-the-top and as cheesy as it was; my only model for a relationship was what I had seen on television and read in books, so the end product was two-thirds Pizza Cats, one-third Harlequin novel.  Also, I had no concept of interspecies relationships at this time, so it seemed natural that Guido would be attracted to another cat--and excluding Polly, Francine was the only other one around.

I avoided including Lucille in various pairings because I had a genuine dislike for her as a character--I thought her habit of using her missiles to get the cats out of various scrapes was a deus ex machina, and far too much of a cop-out for my liking--and because I later found out she was supposed to be a geisha girl, which made it a little hard to imagine her getting into a serious relationship with anyone.  :O

Polly & Speedy & Guido - Polly is constantly cheesed off when her partners slack off or flirt with Lucille,
                                             but deep down and it shows, she really likes them.
                                             I tend to think Guido is seen as a friend to Polly as they are often seen teaming
                                             togather and are more like backup to Speedy's Ginzu finisher.
                                             Now Speedy on the other hand, is seen very different compared to Guido since
                                             he has a hyperactive attitude to anything and constantly slacks off the most.
                                             His personality gets him into trouble many times and Polly would usually scorn him
                                             despite jumping to conclusions.
                                             But Polly does show great care for Speedy, though not on a personal level until
                                             "The Great Comet Caper", where she senses his interest in her and likewise.
                                             Polly probably did not believe in the comet myth of marriage, but was stirred
                                             into curiosity when Speedy became silent, far from usual indeed.

Actually... as stated before, Polly doesn't show she cares about Speedy as much as Guido. Don't forget, the last episode was Saban's way of trying to fix their mistake by downplaying the whole Speedy/Polly romance thing... I've gone back and watch a few episodes now and I've started to see about the Guido/Polly thing. I think what happened was when fan's saw the last episode they instantly had it in their heads that it was Speedy/Polly.... me included, and thus by going back are of course going to notice Speedy/Polly more then Guido/Polly... so yea

Sorry about that Polly, but you're right in a way as Saban really fiddled with the original dubs.

Anyway.

Speedy & Polly & Lucille - Speedy likes one and mostly fears the other. One episode "Speedy's Double
                                             Time Trick" places the pizza cat leader to play double date, although with
                                              Polly it is delivering top secrets to Al Dente (What secrets? I don't see any!)
                                              Speedy attends with Lucille on a supposed date while with Polly, it looks alot
                                              like going out.
                                              The ending shows Lucille's true intentions, buying her brother a jacket about
                                              Speedy's size, which Speedy was a guinea pig (poor lad :()
                                              But Polly offered him a jacket in her closet to cheer him up which resulted in
                                              an arguement between them (Cute isn't it? :))
                                              In KNT, they come close togather during the series, but SPC it's not the
                                              same story.   
                                         

didn't the guys at saban just watch the eps without the sound and then make up their own plot? I forget where I heard that but it would make sense

 =] 64380

I'm not sure about watching with the sound off, but the Saban International staff wasn't provided with written transcripts to go with the episode footage--meaning they had no idea what anyone in KNT was saying, or what the storylines were.  As the story goes, Andy Thomas had the SPC writers make up completely new plotlines to go with what was happening on-screen.

Can anybody think of couples I have not mentioned?

Characters like the royals, rescue team and other cast extras can be used and are yet to be mentioned.

If Al Dente was married to Mama-san, why doesn't she live and Junior in the palace?

Because they arent married. They arent even the same animals.
 :huh: though thats never really stopped anyone before...

Yes, technically that is correct. Originally in KNT, Mama and Junior were intended to be Tanukis, but thanks to Saban's english writers' many screw-ups in making SPC, fans referring to them as dogs can no longer be considered completely wrong.  :P
Same goes for fans referring to Seymour as a rat, even though he's supposed to be a fox.

I've seen the idea of Francine/Bat Cat tossed about a couple times, but I've never really thought too deep into how or why that could work.


Princess Violet seemed pretty love/hate towards Speedy throughout the series, so I'd would definitely say Bad Bird. Especially considering Violet's three attempts to kidnap marry Bad Bird during the show. (Episodes: Field of Screwballs, All You Need Is Love, Princess Vi's Hippy Dippy Mom)
:violet::badbird:

No no no, you guys got it all wrong!

THEE best pairing in the entire series, both KNT and SPC has to be:

Mama-san and Emperer Fred!

Burkey.

PS, In case you can't tell, I'm joking and being sarcastic ;)

Well, when I was young I noticed the Polly's concern about Speedy in the chapter Gone with the Ginzu, when after the double Cat's Eye Slash Speedy is knocked out in the ground... Polly grabs him crying... The same in Bad Bird Uncaged 2, after Guido, Polly and Fran kicks Speedy Polly shouts him but she has tears in her eyes... Isn't cute?

I can't think more couples... may be Dee Dee and Cosmo? They would look very well together...

I doubt Cosmo/Dee Dee will be likely, although anything is possible :-\
Cosmo nor Sundance ever made a move on her, only Speedy did (I saw that on a screenshot).
But Cosmo did gave Polly his version of a New York welcome and openly flirts with her with no resistance of the female pizza cat. :-*

The boys (Speedy & Guido) watch on in disgust. :O ?:|

Speedy/Polly? Guido/Polly? Puuuh-lease! How can you not notice the most obvious and only sensible pairing in SPC??? Well, pictures say more than words...


(http://img263.echo.cx/img263/463/speedyguido19he.jpg)
A sweet little kiss.

(http://img263.echo.cx/img263/6441/speedyguido29yv.jpg)
Notice the way Guido looks at Speedy.

(http://img263.echo.cx/img263/9374/speedyguido33gx.jpg)
And even in the last episode...
Speedy: "I was just kidding, Guido! Of course I love YOU. Not that skank in red over there!"
Polly: "WTF!!!" *Kills them both*

(Sorry, the Yaoi fanboy within me was awakened)

Guido & Speedy in love?
Sorry I don't see it happening. They're more like friendly nemesises.

Ideal pairings:

 :speedy: + :polly:

 :guido:+ :francine: or  :guido:+ :lucille: I like G/F better. ;-)

It'd be cool if somehow there were little shorts, like side-stories featuring certain characters after the Big Comet Caper. I can imagine many little adventures/intrigues. One might be Guido liking Lucille openly but revealing to us a secret thing for his boss, Fran. He gets found out of course and "Missile Commanded" to near-death.

 :speedy: + :guido: = (http://img144.echo.cx/img144/4105/speedguid7ce.gif)

Ah well, I'm gonna be fair. These pairings are fine too...  :D

(http://img144.echo.cx/img144/223/speedpoll1dn.gif) (http://img144.echo.cx/img144/9057/guidpoll0uf.gif) (http://img144.echo.cx/img144/5148/speedfran5rb.gif) (http://img144.echo.cx/img144/6617/pollfran4jp.gif) (http://img144.echo.cx/img144/8530/guidfran6qi.gif)




Lol! Yeah, that'd be cool. I'd like to see a soap opera starring the SPC characters.

The cats are very likely to be paired togather as they live in the parlour and worked togather.

If you were in that situation, your ideal partner would be one you know for quite a time.

P.S:
Sorry you all :-[

I apoligise for more then 1 post

Violet's site has several pages from a post-Comet Caper manga, but I imagine almost everyone has seen it by now.  There's no relationship stuff in there, with the exception of Vi trying to marry Bad Bird... again.  ;)

Guildo/Speedy! :)

Bad Bird/Speedy! ;-)

Big Cheese/Jerry! :D
......

Dude, you're crazy...  ::)

Burkey

I fixed your post.  :P

i know what you are but what am i? ;]

100% crazy...

This thread needs less insults.

LOL i also like
i just saw epsidode :Al you need is love
CaraxBad bird

its so cute i got to draw that!
but Pincess vi is anoying..

You go girl! Bad Bird and Speedy would be good too, but there's lots more stuff to go by if you wanna pair up Speedy and Guido! Unfortunately Saban cut out a lot of it (like that kiss above), which makes me think they were trying to cover it up. Heheheh.  :D

Insults? HAHA.

Yeah, enough Yaoi and stuff like that, time to put to rest.

As for "insults" I don't see any here. I just see people posting their opinions (by the way, that is the point of a message board.)

So.... yeah. Rock on.

Burkey

i strongly agree. we dislike yaoi, and we dislike yuri. so please, no more of that. thanks.  (>:()

Gonna put this thread on a TEMPORARY break, I'll open it later tomorrow.

And for some reason, I get a Internal Server Error when trying to lock this thread.

Therefore: If anyone posts after me here, their post will be deleted.

Good day all.

Burkey

It's a rule (and therefore a moderator's job to ensure) that every message board member be treated with respect. Calling someone crazy, even if it is your personal opinion, is not very respectful.

I will say right now that I am not a fan of Yaoi and Yuri, but how could I possibly create a rule to prohibit discussion of them, without opening the door for "The Inevitable Moral Debate Of Doom, Regarding You-Know-What."  which will come up in every couples topic, without fail?

Ugh... thread locked until things are sorted out.

For the record, when I said crazy, it was meant in a light, sarcastical manner. I'm not a person to insult through hate or anger on online forums, that's just crazy in itself.

Naw, I just meant a little light hearted fun, so I apologize then. ^_^;

Rock on all.

Burkey

Okay, this thread is re-opened.

Just to reinterate what I've said in another thread...

As long as no sexual content is mentioned, there's no rule against discussion of Yaoi and Yuri, so technically, this is not an Anti-Yaoi/Yuri forum.

However, anyone who wants to discuss such pairings should keep in mind, it will tend to bother some members (myself included, I admit), so you may face criticism at times when someone feels that you go a bit overboard with Yaoi/Yuri ideas.

My recommendation to anyone else who is bothered by such discussion is to not comment on/ignore it.

I'm old fashioned.

I'd prefer the Polly + Speedy / Guido + Francine pairing anyday.

Burkey

I dont have much of a comment for the fore mentioned topic, but Id like to get this rolling with my idea of the best SPC couple to date.

Lou and Vi, now how can anyone disagree with that :P

I have to admit I'd rather have Polly with Guido than with Speedy, cause sometimes I get the feeling Guido and Polly are like Speedy's mommy and daddy. With Polly as the harsh mother and Guido as the more tolerant father.

Still, nothing beats Speedy/Guido.

But why doesn't anyone mention the Rescue Team? Cause they're all guys? We-ell, I think Spritz helps General Catton out when the big cat needs to wash up... And Meowzma, could it be that he's married to BatCat?

It would've been cool if there had been an all female team of Pizza Cats...


Errr, interesting... Please elaborate.

One of the B-Team is married to a woman already, sorry to burst your bubble.

Burkey

Burkey: Well, Meowzma did say he was married, but we never see his spouse. It's one of those random things thrown in, like when Guido said to Polly that they should "get married and start a family".

My favorite pairing would have to be Carla/Okara and Bad Bird/Karamaru, hands down. They're just so cute together. ^^ That said, the Speedy + Polly couple would be next in line, although it's funny how some of you mentioned Guido + Polly because I thought of that myself a few times. When Speedy isn't around, those two are always together. I also liked Guido + Ruby, pity she had such a dorky boyfriend. Basically, any pairings of the four main cats works for me. Big Cheese + Jerry seems to work well too, although theirs is more of a "gag relationship" for comedic relief. ^_~  As you can tell, same-sex pairings are also fine with me, but as D-Mac said, let's not start a huge firestorm over this, everyone has different tastes.

It's hard to argue with BadBird/Carla and Big Cheese/Jerry since those pairings are pretty much official. (Not that I would argue with them, I think they're nice  ;))

Image supporting my theory of Polly and Guido being like Speedy's mom and dad.
(http://img267.echo.cx/img267/1250/mommyyy6nh.jpg)
"Mommyyyy... BadBird is being MEAN to me!!!"
I actually think they'd make good parents...

I JUST CAN SAY ONE OF THE NEW ANIMATION RULES THAT HAS BEEN USED

SMART GIRLS LKIKES THE STUPID GUYS

(Unfortunately for me, this isn't used at thge real life...)  :O

Sorry, but that just made me laugh so hard.... *dies*

Burkey  :D

i still like
Speedy x Guildo
and Speedy x BaD bird

and was Jerry X Big Cheese offcial? :P

aldo i like SPeedy X Polly too :-*

Well, not really... But almost.  :D

:speedy: + :polly: :
This support my view that Speedy+Polly is more suitable than Speedy+Lucille. In Japanese anime a common cliche is a childish boy touching maternal heart of the more mature (not in age, but in personality) girl, and eventually she falls in love with him. Speedy has good heart, but sometimes acts silly and must be hit by someone like Polly. Speedy+Fran could had same kind of relationship, but Fran is the most mature of the Pizzacats, therefore she will get bored with a husband like Speedy.
 :guido: + :lucille: :
Another cliche is a girl that meets a more mature boy, that resembles sometimes her father and give support to her. In this line Guido+Lucille could be a perfect couple. Guido is the most of time cool, except when join Speedy to do silly things (kind of older brother acting more childish, in the presence of younger brother) and deserves to be hit by Polly. Besides, I want to see their kids, a horned cats.  :) BTW, someone here told that Lucille is a gueixa; I disagree, it's not seems that she has knoledge in art and culture required from a gueixa. Lucille resembles a common citizen (a worker) of Little Tokyo and don't show to have the education and skills of a gueixa.
 :guido: +  :francine: :
This could be fine too, but I feel that the real love of Fran doesn't appeared in the serie. Bucky was not developed further, but in my feeling he isn't the most suitable partner to her. Are there any fanfics writer that wishes to develop a new character to be Fran's true love?

Puutaro-kun: Guido and Polly as parental figures for Speedy?  ?:| I just don't see it. True, they do act more mature (compared to him) in general, but I'd say it's more of a best-friends thing.

FMatsumoto: I had to look for a definition of "gueixa" for a bit (the Japanese word is "geisha" for those of you who are wondering). I'd have to say the producers of SPC might have thought Lucille looked like a "geisha", that and she worked in a tea house, but yeah, I never thought she was one myself. Oh, and a slight pet peeve of mine was that they could never say it right, it's "gay-sha" not "gee-sha" (sounded like they were saying "geeses" once) o_o; But such is the case with many other foreign words, like "kamikaze". *shrugs*

that's always been a pet peeve for me: mispronouncing words like "geisha" and "Honda". whenever i heard someone say, "gee-sha", i'd say, "It's 'gay-sha', not 'gee-sha'!"

anyway, to get back on topic, i agree with Tigriss about her response to Puutarou-kun's statement. i also don't see how Guido and Polly could be parental in any way; perhaps fraternal, or just, like she said, as his best friends.

Lucille is not a geisha, she just runs a tea house.  There are actual geisha in some of the episodes (like when Lou was out partying).  The main evedence she's not is that she's dressed for working, not for entertaining.  It's highly stylized for KNT's style of animation, but Lucille has her kimono sleeves pulled up and tied back out of the way, and she has a shop apron on.  A geisha would dress much more elegantly and very formal, plus the traditional make up.  However, a lot of non-Japanese seem to call just about any Japanese girl in a kimono or even the less formal yukata a "Geisha".

Well, I must admit that I always thought that Lucille was a geisha just for her outfit cause is the same that the other geishas of the series are wearing (The Great Goldern Chuck, I think this is the title, I can' remember perfectly)...

ABout the Speedy/Polly discussion; is obvious that Polly and Guido can be more mature than Speedy  sometimes (JUST Sometimes) and is obvious that Polly is a lot more serious than Speedy... May be this is the fact that she liked on him, Speedy is a most relaxed guy and he takes the life easily; Polly can admire this personallity cause she can't be in this way... About why Speedy liked Polly... C'mon!! Is a red fair Blue Eyes girl!! SHE IS PERFECT!! (Except that little bad temper fact but... WHAT THE HECK!!)

I'm not saying Speedy sees Polly and Guido as his parents. But as Tigriss said, since they act mature than him, it automatically feels like they are at sometimes.

(But come on! Don't tell me you can't see Polly as the rough mother, who's fed up with her carefree child being out fooling around instead of helping her out at home... Wait! That sounds like Speedy and Polly again...  :D)


Currently these are my views on the couplings of the three main cats...

 :speedy: :polly:
Speedy/Polly: Lots of people like this one, but myself I just can't picture it. I think they'd most likely drive each other up the wall.
 :polly: :guido:
Polly/Guido: This one I could see happening, kind off. They have a lot in common. And red and blue does look good together.
 :speedy: :guido:
Speedy/Guido: Whether it is romantic or not, I love the relationship these two share. In my wicked little mind there's no one that is more right for them than each other.

(*Lol* Using my own icons makes me feel so conceited...  ;))

Sorry Tigriss, I erroneously wrote "gueixa" instead "gueisha", because the former is the Portuguese spelling. As I said, my mother tongue is Portuguese and sometimes I make mess with rômaji.  :(

-The Emperor and that lady who makes fun of the pizza cats with her son , they seem destine to be in love if they don't knwo each other
-The Narator of the show and Francine, he need somebody to love so..meh  :/
- Big Cheese is a crossdress he can love himself or with jerry atric you seem them together on the eps ( yeah i knwo no yiao but it's true you seem them everyday schemeing together to get rid of the cats)

No offence to Mota but:
I assume in a way that the Narrator is already married, he mentioned it once I think.
Seymour as a narcissist (one who loves his reflection or self) would not really be enough, so the chemistry and and the aged Ninja Crow Master provides more of understanding bizarre relationships.
The only two characters that probably married Mama-san would be Guru Lou (cringe) or Al Dente.
Emperor Fred is too scatterbrained for anyone to be with, His family only understand and tolerate him.
These are my opinions anyway, so don't fret. ;-)

I noticed extras that are unnamed, but could also coupled with cast characters.
Like for instance:
Unnamed cat from "Kind of a drag" and "Robots of popular prices" which Guido flirts and Speedy finds.
Unnamed rabbit from "Robots of popular prices" which Casanova cat (guess who?) flirts.
Cat from "Golden Cluck" that wished for a boyfriend.

Hi, all! I'm new, but I'd like to address...


Oh, but what about Usa no Tsubone/the Empress Freda (Alternately spelled Freida, Frieda, etc.), otherwise known as "Princess Vi's Hippy Dippy Mom"? I always thought she and the Emperor were very much in love - they had Vi together after all! Besides, in that one episode, she gives Emperor Fred the most enthusiastic greeting anyone has received in the whole series, in my opinion.  :D Though, only a few seconds after whirling him around gleefully, the Empress claims the only thing she sees in him is his wealth. ;)

Still, they were always one of my favorite couples in the series. Perhaps the reason for their blissful marriage is because she travels the world so much; she doesn't have to put up with Fred on a day-to-day basis!

same here. i think the two guys will be nothing more than friendly rivals.

I saw this on a Guido Shrine online.  :guido: +  :violet: in a Romeo + Juliet story plan.
Is this very likely? Vi usually woos over  :badbird: and kinda likes  ;) but Guido?
Well is there likely evidence like in "Unidentified Flying Screwballs" or anything else?

This just in!
Watching "Big Cheese shows his filmy substance", I've noticed Lucille's behaviour. She was with Speedy at the poster stand, thinking that he will be perfect as the advertised role. But when Guido arrived on the scene, her mind quickly changed, claiming Guido as a future star.
She even pushed Speedy aside to get to Guido!
This kinda gives you a sense on who Lucille might fall for in the end.
Speedy it seems, is losing in an ongoing struggle for Lucille's affections.

Next to Francine, Guido's got an excellent opportunity at Lucille in my opinion.

I'm reviving this topic that was almost fogotten. No words needed, only see the pic. :gurulou:

Hi everyone, I’m new here. Can’t believe I only just found out about this place! I feel ripped … :) I’m the fanfic writer formally known as Kat, who’s now Louielacious on fanfiction.net. But getting back to the topic …

I absolutely, 110%  LOVE and support Guido and Polly as a couple! I have ever since I was nine years old … (too many years ago to count). And here I thought I was the only one all this time?! I’m so happy to read posts from other fans who feel the same way :) Thanks for listing all the hints.

I agree with the points raised about Guido and Polly being the father and mother figure of the SPC trio. Speedy, as the “fearless leader”, is the point of the triangle – the one out in front. Guido and Polly are in partnership behind him. They act as his foundation, supporting him and pushing him out into the world – just as parents would with a child. You can see that in ‘The Comet Caper Part II’, when Guido/Polly tell Speedy to go and fight Badbird on his own.

Also, as said, blue matches red. Guido’s the cool guy, Polly’s the hot head. They’re the opposites. Badbird is Speedy's opposite because he's in black armour. There's a definite yin and yang dynamic happening! On that note, Guido/Polly were both the ‘brain’ of the Supreme Catatonic. The brain has left (feminine) and right (masculine) sides. Again, this is yin/yang. When Speedy was in the Catatonic he was paired with Badbird, so we had white/black. Not saying Speedy should go out with Badbird now ... unless you're into that ;)  But yin/yang is the basis of a balanced partnership, and the backdrop to many romances.

And, without getting too deep again, I just love them together! Both Guido and Polly are die hard romantics, and its obvious Guido’s into Polly. He thinks she’s sexy, wants to marry her and start a family, c’mon! He also says “you’re the prettiest superhero we know” in that charm school episode (did someone say that already?). Polly in relation to Guido is more subtle, though she does get as angry about Guido hitting on Lucille as she does with Speedy. I also remember her being all dreamy and saying “what a guy!” in ‘No Talent Guido’ when Guido saves the day. Plus she’s fallen for Cosmo – Guido’s extra large ego equivalent!

Okay, that’s about it. I had to get that out, I’ve been thinking about this stuff since the 90’s. My other favourite couple is Speedy/Vi (Speedy for Emperor!). They’re both big kids :)  Big Cheese/Jerry Attric also rock! Very Mr Burns and Smithers. I’m trying to write a fanfic about all this stuff, which I’m sure I’ll finish by the 2090’s. It’s kind of a sequel to my other Guido/Polly fic ‘Chasing Polly’.  Until then, the series has ended so that means Guido and Polly got hitched and made babies … in my head at least :)

Velcome delcome Ms.Moe. ^_^

Domo arigato  ;)

Hi, nice to meet you.  :-*
Thinking how to make :speedy: and :violet: marry (in the KNT serie I watch at least two of such opportunity). Speedy left Pizza Cat after his identity being exposed in the comet incident. His former boss, Al Dent, recognizing his courage and skill, hired Speedy to work in the castle as a samurai warrior. That's the chance to he and princess meet in daily basis. When Vi is bored, call Speedy to help her to get out of the castle without being noticed, and then she begins to gain confidence in his loyalty (actually Speedy fears to be banished by Vi).

About Lucille heart

Speedy dates Lucille, but she is selfish and care more about herself and getting attention than anything(A bit like Vi, no wonder these two get along well). That’s why she doesn’t chose between Guido and Speedy, cause she likes to get attention. Lets just say that she ends choosing Speedy, because she may really like him and because Guido flirts with every cute girls he sees. Guido may seem to get Lucille attention more, but that’s because Lucille is an attention/affection seeker and Guido knows what she wants, that means presents, and stuff like that. I think that’s the reason she tried twice to become a famous singer, to be loved by many people. Her giant missile in the last episode was more like a“Im angry cause you dont love me" than a true heart broken. This is my version of the story and that’s why I thought he could try to be a live news reporter, she loves attention. Is not that she doesn’t care about Speedy at all, but she likes more the idea to be loved by millions of fans.

That why any relationship she could have wont work, Speedy got tired of her selfishness and lack of affection and Guido just likes every cute girls he sees.

A hoy hoy! Nice to meet you too.


Good basis for a potential :speedy: and :violet: romance. Princess Vi really needs a break. I think there's potential for more depth to her character that isn't fully explored. Running the country as a teenager with a dad who's cleary insane and a Prime Minister who wants to take over while cross dressing ... and you can never leave the castle? Yeah, I'd be sending everyone to Prisoner Island too ...

BTW, has anyone suggested :speedy: and :francine:? I kinda mused with this when I was younger, but I can't say I'm really a fan. Don't know if there are any clues in the series ... but they are both the shortest! Fran's even shorter then Speedy, so maybe she should go out with him just so he can feel tall? ;) 

It is great this topic's back in the saddle. I always feared it would eventually fade away.

A chemistry between :speedy: &  :violet: would be OK, although Voilet would be calling the shots. Every princess needs a galliant warrior and Speedy & Bad Bird are no exceptions, though the latter's a villain, who already has a love interest....of the feathered variety.
A relationship with anyone, love or friendship is important to everyone and Vi's no exception. Being stuck in that castle, entitled with a national responsibility and never allowed to leave unless necessary. I think that Vi did not have a ideal childhood, with all spoiling, but no real friends from outside royalty, mostly babysitted and possibly raised by Al Dente.
Her true feelings are likely to be sealed in and I think that she wants to know about the world she's missed and just wants a friend.

As much as I like possible, yet hidden couples. I can't help but go "awww, how cute!!" at  :bigcheese: &  :jerry:. They have been a duo from the start and despite few tirades against each other, they forgive and not much kiss, then make up. It maybe weird, but still a tag team of that calibre will never cease to amaze and amuse many.
 

That's actually a good point, and yes Moe, I have read and seen your fics on FF.net, and you can guess who I am as well.

Nice to meet a fellow writer, sign up for my Fiction Contest in the FanWorks board, give me a little bit of competition! ;)

Burkey

Same argument could be used with :lucille:, if my memory isn't wrong, she measures 120 cm, and :speedy: measures 130 cm. These datas can be checked against "Meka meka hidentyou" corner of the KNT episodes.

No, don't fade away! I just realised it existed ... ;)


Poor Princess Vi. She definitely needs a good friend. Someone who'd have the time of day to find out what lies beneath the spoiled brat :) I've been writing about :speedy: and :violet: today, and that's kinda the route I'm taking at the moment (at least). Girl stuck in Palace ... girl needs to get out of Palace ... boy thinks girl in Palace is a nutjob ... boy helps girl out of Palace and learns who she really is ... boy manages to avoid Prisoner Island ... etc.


Hello Burkey! Yes I know who you are, nice to meet you too. I read the post for your Fiction Contest. Sounds great but I can't write something in two weeks! I'm working on one large story right now and taking my sweet time.


Yes but if the hatch on Lucille's head is open all the time, doesn't that make her taller? ;) 

Isn't Pururun shortest of the 3 main cats? I saw their heights printed on the back of a pencilboard.
Yattarou: 133cm 40kg
Pururun: 130cm 35kg
Sukashii: 150cm 55kg

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I've noticed that too, but it's quite obvious in the show that Pururun/Polly is taller.  The only thing I can think of is that Yattarou includes his ears in his height (to try and seem taller), and Pururun does not.

But this is probably more of a "SPC Mysteries" topic.

The information given by Adam808 is same of the  "Meka meka hidentyou" corner of the first 3 episodes of KNT. The picture given by Violet (BTW it's same of my desktop background) is not conclusive, because Yattarou body appears to be slightly curved. Yes, more mistery here.

Just a quick note folks:

Please direct any more "Short Speedy" or other character stuffs to the SPC Mysteries thread.
http://www.edoropolis.org/forums/index.php?topic=71.120 (http://www.edoropolis.org/forums/index.php?topic=71.120)

^_^

Danke.

Despite it being his worst nightmare, I actually read a decent fan-fic once upon a time that paired Bad Bird :badbird: with Princess Vi. :violet:
^-^

there's something you don't see every day  :O

Hmm, well, for as long as I can remember, I have always loved the Bad Bird/Princess Vi pairing the best (seeing as they're my two favorite characters in the entire series). Ironic that the two of them have had 'hints', much to Bad Bird's dismay. Besides, their scenes together always cracked me up. I guess I can relate to Vi's crazy stalkerish ways when it comes to having a crush on someone (though, not so much 'stalkerish' in my case. ;) ) but from going totally ga-ga over 'em. Poor Bad Bird, though, but I could always see the two of them being such a cute couple.... if it actually worked.

I can see many many other pairings as well, but that one is number one on my list. :D

Maybe if she tied him up? ;) Not knocking your ship, I think their kinda cute too. Definitely hilarious viewing. I vote them for being one of the funniest ships, along with Cheesy and Jerry (who rule supreme in the funnies deparment).

I made these icons a long time ago (the couple ones are not official forum icons though  :D). You are free to use them however you like, as they are free for use by anyone.  ;)

Thanks but what's the HTML code on the Guido/Speedy icon? I'm feeling a little clueless there ?:|

You can use this:
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Remove the spaces and you get
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Hey, check this one out: Fran & Big Al.  :francine: &  :bigal:

Don't get wrong for a start, but those have a very unique relationship (not romance of course, but could be a fantasy couple). As they are both in charge of the Pizza Cats from different occupations and like marriage, they can give each other grief at times with their bossiness, but when working togather, quite a unit. Besides they have good interaction on the phone. ;-)

Only if Al's got money!

Speaking of Al, I thought of this one last night - :bigcheese: + :bigal:. Didn't Al fall in love with Big Cheese accidentally once? Can't recall the episode ... the one where Big Cheese wanted Princess Vi to fall in love with him so he could be Emperor.

There's another one right there! :bigcheese: + :violet:. Don't like that one personally, it's kinda creepy ... plus I think Cheese bats for the other team.

Al was under a love spell as he was hit by a cupid-style robot's arrow with Seymour's picture on. Not only is it funny, but quite disturbing. I mean he was licking the Big Cheese like a regular dog.

 :violet:+ :bigcheese: would not work because Violet is wise to Seymour's character and does not trust him fully, though it took her quite a time to realise how much of a crook he was. Besides, she is way too young and Seymour has to be in his ,say, 30s. He would marry her only for power & money, nothing more, in which makes the most appalling married couples.

Dats the one! Yes, most disturbing :D

See, I don't believe in any relationships between characters.

I don't care who goes with who, or for whatever reason.

It doesn't change a thing in the world if one of them goes with the other or whoever.

I just steer clear of this whole department and it makes my life of writing SO MUCH EASIER.

Burkey

*tisktisk* Spoil sport ...  ;]

When I first began to rewatch the show, I wondered immediately why Speedy didn't hook up with Polly. I watched the first episode, saw Polly griping about Speedy & Guido drooling over Lucille and the first thing I thought was "Oh. She likes one of them." I had wondered what Speedy saw in Lucille; seemed to me all she had in her skull was explosives...  :P Since Speedy happened to be my favorite character, I thought "Wouldn't it be funny if..." And I watched the last episode. Kind of a bad cliche(at least nowadays), "the two that appear to hate each other love each other." But I liked the ending, since it catered to my every whim... :D

Hey, told I should continue my discussion on odd pairings here...interesting opinions in this place, hmmm

I think I'm the first here to suggest the pairing of :polly: &  :badbird: though that is understandable because it's an pretty odd idea. When I find the time I'll try and write a fanfic about these two. Both seem pretty strong willed and overly aggressive, they'd probably end up killing each other if they ever attempted dating...Still I've been throwing around the idea, and I think I could have fun with this.

As for the other pairings discussed I've got no problem with Speedy & Polly, Guido & Polly, or any other pairing really...I read a Speedy & Francine fic the other day, it convinced me Speedy + Francine could work.

I always loved  :violet: +  :badbird: myself because I found Violet's obsession and Badbird's suffering hilarious in the series. Don't think I've ever seen anyone write a fic between those two but oh well.

 :polly: +  :badbird: actually do share a 'moment' together in the show. I noticed it in the episode Big Bad Beat. It's about 10 minutes and ten seconds into the episode when Walky Talky makes Bad Bird join the the Pizza Cats for dinner. When Polly pours Bad Bird some "lemonade" she looks at him in a funny and charming kind of way.

Also, in Pizza Bird Delivers, Speedy and Guido seem to be the only ones who have a problem with Bad Bird working with them. After realizing they're not in any danger from him, Polly seems more eager to hire Bad Bird than the other two.

Could these examples be a sign?  :-* :badbird:

Polly obviously dislikes how Speedy and Guido (albeit less frequently than Speedy) goof off and don't take their work seriously. Bad Bird, on the other hand, is very dedicated. I think she might like that.

Good points by felineki and Mechadon, maybe Polly sees a potential kindred spirit in Bad Bird? Or maybe spending sometime with him is just a bit of relief after spending so much time with dunder heads like Guido and Speedy, lol.

Well, about the relationship between  :polly: &  :badbird:.
When Bad Bird worked with the Pizza Cats, Polly wasn't too eager to with BB, although not as bad as Guido & Speedy. Would you like to work with your arch enemy?

Besides, other than that, Bad Bird has a habit of exploiting Polly's somewhat gulliableness to the max like in the cases of the charm school & Pointless sisters.
And the end, Polly obviously finds out and gets really steamed, to the point she would personally want to make a scratching post out of the ninja crow.

However, since we're talking P/BB possibilities, watch the Walkie-Talkie episode. Big hint there.
It was when the robot of the week dragged BB to join the pizza cats, who were enjoying a meal.
Polly offered him a drink and that alone looks good. She even offered him to finish the drink off.
I like that scene. It's a rare Polly/Bad Bird moment. Surprised no-one pointed that one out.
Not to mention Polly is Mega-cute :-*

I read a fic years ago that put Polly and BB kinda together. I guess there are supporters out there :) Wouldn´t have a clue where that fic is now ...

I´m sticking to pink and blue myself  ::)

Haven't really said much since my thoughts on Guido/Polly (http://www.edoropolis.org/forums/index.php?topic=69.msg391#msg391) back on the first page, so I'll add a bit more...

Pizza Bird Delivers made me something of a fan of  :badbird: + :francine:, as Francine was really the only cat to take a liking to BB throughout his time at the Emporium. One must consider, of course, that being the profit-driven character she is, Fran may have only appreciated BB for his efficiency and hard work ethic, but looking beyond this possible factor, I thought it was all very sweet.  :)

I assume Francine loved BB's working skills, but it would not work out anyway (although, she does not know much since she does not go into battle against him, she probably heard of him from the SPC trio, so could be possible),  since BB's not that good with many women, especially in that same episode when three feminine customers compliented on him, as a feather duster. And immediately, BB shot back a remark of his own, obviously revealing his too familiar side. That part was funny.

 :badbird: :You ain't much to look at either.
Narrator: Well, you can't expect a guy to change overnight.

While we're now on the subject of  =]& ;], here's my say on this pair, since I can't remember addressing this pair:

Speedy out the way, I noticed how sorta close Polly & Guido are, they are often seen togather in many episodes, especially when confronting Speedy over an error. They also act like parents to their sometimes childish leader. This has been mentioned before in this topic.

Plenty of "Hmmm. Interesting" Polly/Guido scenes did occured to me. Like for instance;
Bad Bird Uncaged Part 1"= Polly & Guido are seen by night in armor before their short battle with the annonymous foe (Bad Bird). There was no other trouble that night and they were seen straight after BB blew up a Deli stand. 
"The Great Comet Caper Part 2"= After Polly had a breakdown, Guido promised to look after her and she appreciated his kind offer. Now, what would've happened if Speedy & BB never came back? Anyway, Speedy did came back and joked with Polly's feelings, causing to be booted in the face by Guido, defending her honour.

And for some reason, they can activate their Extra-Topping mode without aid of the Ginzu Sword, which was not explained in the series.

With :francine: and :badbird: as well, there was the 'Kung Fu' episode where Fran mistook a crawling BB for a bench ('lady get off my back!'). Not exactly romantic, but kinda cute :-*

Hehe, I've missed this thread  :P

Wow, this topic is still active?

I can totally feel the love in this thread.  :-*

EDIT: Aww...

These topics are some of the first to exsist in any kind of fanbase. They never die. ::)

Yeah, long life to this thread!  :-*

Of course, it's fanboy/girls to blame.

Or I blame the schools/media/President Bush.

Or whatever floats your boat.

Burkey

No no, the fault lies within the large sunspot on Uranus! *Nods*

Dude. Sunspots only exist on the Sun. THAT"S WHY THEY'RE CALLED SUN SPOTS!

Since I'm the guy responsible for this thread, I like to say THANK YOU to all who help made this one of the most popular topics here.
It has grown larger and longer then I could ever imagine.
THANKS FOLKS, I GREATLY APPRECIATE IT!!! :D :-* :D :D

Can we please stay on the subject btw?

When I was a bit younger, I used to like the idea of  :meowsma: + :francine: Didn't he used to call her 'Kitten' sometimes?

And yeah, I quite like Speedy & Polly as a couple   :speedy: :-*

 

really?  huh, must've missed it...
feel sorry for  :guido: at the end though...

In The Terror of Prisoner Island, Meowsma mentions that he is married.

I like the idea of :francine: + :batcat: for some reason.

I have manifested my opinion in the past, so shall be short and quick:
 :speedy: + :polly: ,  :guido: + :lucille: :badbird: + Carla/Okara, and  :francine: + Bucky/Heikiti (these pairings make sense with KNT series and/or Teyandee Manga).
 :violet: + :bigal: (actually an idea for a fanfic).
I have other pairing possibilities in my mind, but that need to be developed further.

feel sorry for :bigal: on that one

I like :francine: and :batcat: as well. Long live the thread  :)

I've seen a lot of Speedy haters around here (come ON, give the guy a break vvill ya! I';d rather have my leaders be fun loving than say...oh..Fred Jones) that doesn't think Speedy belongs vvith Polly at all! Or that there vvas never any attraction betvveen them at all before the Comet Caper. Um....no. There vvas a LOT of attraction betvveen them before Big Comet Caper! A fevv examples:

Polly's Magical Flute: Aside from Big Comet Caper, this ep, I think, had the MOST Speedy/Polly. For instance,
                            Speedy, in the beginning, vvas the only one vvho remembered Polly played the flute
                            Speedy gave the flute avvay in the first place cause he vvanted to get her a nevv one! He vvas THINKING of her and vvanting to make her happy, that should prove he cares!
                             He called her Kitten tvvice!
                            He got depressed and upset vvhen she got really mad at him.

Let The Celler Bevvare: another one chock full of Speedy/Polly.
                                  Polly bangs Guido vvith a frying pan after he makes a crack about Speedy and calls him 'pal'. She's also the one vvho shovvs the most concern for him all throughout vvhile Guido can't even be depended upon to bring a back-up pack (some friend!)


Also Son of Big Cheese: VVhen Speedy is caught in the chopsticks by the Big Robot, Polly is the is the one screaming 'Speedy, hold on!' and vvhen he's dropped, Polly rushes to his side first asking if he's OK. Also vvhen they're crushed against the vvall vvatch vvhen the robot removes his hand. It looks like Speedy has his hand on Polly's knee!

Underground, Undervvater Undercooked: Polly laughs at Speedy's joke.

No Talent Guido: At the end vvhen Guido is aproached by the agent, Speedy and Polly speak in unison saying 'Here vve go again." And they both confront Guido at the end.

Speedy's Double Time Trick: Again, chock full. It's obvious Speedy didn't vvant to hurt either girl. VVhen they're about to fight Bad Bird Polly seems hapy to fight vvith Speedy, again calling him 'pal' and before they start fighting again at the end attraction is there, especially vvhen she gives him the suit.

Kung Fu Kitty Contest: Polly is his number 1 cheerleader. even vvhen she says 'VVhat a shovv-off' it looks like she's smiling vvhen she says it. She looks jealous vvhen he drools over Lucielle, and vvhen he's scared to fight Bullshot Bill Polly kneels next to him and tries to encourage him. Also vvhen they're vvalking back home after Polly is looking at him sympathetically.

All You Need is Love: VVhen Guido is caught vvith the camera Polly yells more at him for doing vvhat he vvas scolding Speedy for doing, and she doesn't yell at Speedy at all! Also vvatch vvhen they enter the tent. Polly had her hands on Speedy's shoulders and they both roll their eyes at Guido's joke.

Despite also vvhat some people say Speedy and Polly don't fight that much vvith each other, there are a lot of eps vvhere they don't fight at all! She fights more vvith Guido!

That's vvhat I have so far...but it should be evident that Speedy and Polly do love each other and belong together. (I never savv the Japanese verson, but as far as I';m concerned in America that manga aftervvard does NOT exist and Speedy and Polly end up happily ever after!)

You know, you can just press the "w" key instead of pressing "v" twice to make your words sound cuter. Not impressed.

I had assumed pollygirl's "w" key is broken.

Perhaps, but in other posts, they're just fine. :D

To those of you who keep insulting Pollygirl on her opinions, I am asking you, as one of her friends, to stop it. I agree with her on her opinions of Speedy and Polly's relationship, and I totally agree with her, that Speedy and Polly are destined soulmates. Guido belongs with Lucille, and Good Bird with Carla. The examples that Pollygirl gave to support Speedy and Polly's relationship: I've seen them myself, and I can honestly say that she's 100% correct.

I'm not seeing any real insults in this specific thread, but if you feel anything inappropriate has been said here or elsewhere, please report it to me.

On the subject of Speedy/Polly and Guido/Polly --there really is no right or wrong regarding paring ideas in this thread. So long as there's at least a shred of thought behind them, people are free to share and support and pairing ideas they wish.

Ah, I can see why you're the administrator, very level headed response there, even when someone like myself sometimes forgets to do the same. :D

I agree. Let's all keep a cool head from now on, and avoid any nasty arguements.  :speedy: + :polly: forever!

Thing is.... I don't see anyone insulting or being angry or saying anything bad about... anything! I see posters expressing their opinion, and YOU are jumping on them right away if they don't exactly meet your view. I personally don't think Polly and Speedy belong together, not in the slightest. That's my opinion, live with it.

While I’m not a fan of it, I defend the Bucky and Francine relationship, because is official, you may like it or not. Why else would I invent a girl just for Guido to date with?.

Anyway, back to Polly/Lucille/Speedy triangle, I think is a bit like the one is Macross, where the hero ends with the more adult girl, in this case we are talking about mental age, since Polly is not that selfish, and doesn’t act like a spoiled princess. And of course Polly was there when Speedy really needed help, while Lucille was always very selfish.

Thank you, Blackcat. I'm glad that there are others out there, that can recognize just how well Speedy+Polly go together.

There are plenty out there, I'd say... 80% of people do support the Spe/Pol relationship pairing. Others have their own views, but just because they like a different pairing, doesn't mean they're "insulting" you. There are worse things in life, trust me.

As for me, I don't agree with ANY pairings, I show nor have no interest in who is with who, it's all crap in the end anyways, so I don't really care.

Well, I’m not a fan of romance, I just include a bit of it in my stories to get the female readers, you know like they did in the Flash Gordon cartoons.

Yes we must all be free to express our opinions! But it didn't strike me that anyone was stopping people from doing so ...  ?:|

Oh well, I've already expressed myself plenty in the past. I'm just happy the thread's somewhat active again  :-*

 :polly:+ Narrator forever!!! ^_^   :D

Well, we could talk about I-fic episode 2 and about how awesome it is for not having invented hero characters that take over the story.

It's hard to come up with new stuff ... considering the show ended over ten years ago :(

If only it had a longer run. Then the narrator and Polly would surely be together  ;]

I'm among the persons that like the :speedy: + :polly: pairing, as I have stated early in this topic. I'm not rejecting other possibilities, but that is my preferred one. 

I watched all KNT (Japanese) episodes, but only few SPC ones, so maybe my remmarks couldn't be applied for the SPC show. One can see some complicated relationships in the series, in a fashion of comedy. For example, Yattarou (:speedy:) loves Omitsu (:lucille:), and compete with Sukashii (:guido:). Besides Omitsu loves Nyankii #1 (the leader of the cat ninjas), but she never suspected that he was Yattarou.
During the series one can hardly find any clue about the feeling of Pururun (:polly:) about Yattarou, that is revealed only in the eps 52-53. When Omitsu discovers that Nyankii #1 and Yattarou is the same person, it looks like she accepts well the fact that Pururun loves Yattarou.

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I'm doing some efforts to bring "new and fresh" stuffs here, but it's hard without the help of more people. I think it's not fair people complaining about the lack of some hot stuff in the board, but the same people doesn't make posts. I mean, it's better to have some posts even in old topics than having no posts at all.

It certainly does, and I also think that Lucille and Guido would make a really nice pairing.

Yes, I admit it, I hacked 4chan. I did it for the lulz.

No, we're not going to throw insults at you. (At least I'm not) I like your idea.
For one thing, I don't see this place as just somewhere only to talk about SPC. I see it as a place for like-minded individuals to discuss other topics of interest.

I joined these forums for primarily that purpose. I wanted to find other people who were also into this crazy cartoon that I love, and find out their opinions on other things and have discussions about it.


It's kinda hard to have a physical relationship with a disembodied voice.

What's I-fic epsiode 2?  ?:|

VVell unlike Lucielle, though, Polly knovvs vvho she VVANTS. ( :speedy:) If Guido tried to fight Speedy for POLLY, he'd get his butt kicked by BOTH of them! :)

 

To quote Yakko VVarner in 'Animaniacs', "Goodnight, everybody!"
 

That was hilarious. Those guys compete over everything!

we now have two fan-made Radio dramas!, and an online comic...fanmade episode would be too hard to do, even if we just used sprites.

If you could do better, then they'd leave it up to you!.  :P

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH... I really miss Animaniacs

YAY! Spoofs!  :D Keep 'em rollin'!

 :bigcheese:+ :francine: should be perfect
 :bigcheese: got money ,is rich and ugly ??

I prefer the couples the show ends up with.  ;-)

Polly and Speedy, and Bad Bird and Carla. Those are the only ones that I can see as official. ;)

I am very open to Guido/Fran and Guido/Lucille. in fact, I can't decided who I like him better with!


VVell unlike Lucielle, though, Polly knovvs vvho she VVANTS. ( :speedy:) If Guido tried to fight Speedy for POLLY, he'd get his butt kicked by BOTH of them! :)

 

While I agree with Pollygirl, Guido isn't the kind of guy to do that to his friends. So no butt kicking would happen. *Loves Guido* =]

and I'm against Yaoi/Yuri. But Big Cheese/Jerry Kinda works for me.  :O as in; I like it, because I find it humorous. ;]

Necro'ed thread is necro.

I won't even make the obvious references of the user name, the "vv" and "VV" and writing style of the above poster, as it's just too painfully obvious and moronic.

Horrid.

Bottom line when it comes to relationships: Who cares?

~Rawr

i know this is way old but i always wanted Guido to get with Ruby

Shame she was blind as a bat without her glasses.

Think of the heartbreak and confusion poor Guido would have to suffer if she ever lost them again.

:(

~BB

Yeah, would make for a interesting episode, it it did happen, what would be the title though?

Maybe if Ruby broke up with her ugly boyfriend...  ?:|

Ruby would be my second choice for Guido. I like her character, she's a cutie  =]

too bad you can't find out a couple for the ninja crows, since there aren't female ninja crows. I wonder why ?:|

There are female ninja crows!!! They stand behind the male ones and use them as shields. They know better than to mess with the cats, not directly.

Ninja crows are obviously like smurfs. Their female population is severely limited ...


And YAY. This thread is somewhat active again! Hopefully they'll be more freedom of speech and NO bashing, if anyone dares to give an opinion regarding the exciting and not-too-important world of SPC relationships.   

Alright here's another one for thought, Big Al and Mama-san. I think it could work. Who knows maybe it already has and junior is Big Al's illegitimate child.

*looks at topic*
*starts casually polishing a frying pan*

I guess Ruby's relationship is proof that love is blind. 8) *ducks thrown objects* I was a big fan of the Guido/Ruby pairing back in the day. Not sure about that anymore. And even though I love the official couples, sometimes it's fun to think of other pairings too. Some more plausible than others, but hey, "crack" pairings can be interesting.

Speedy and Bad Bird, for example. I think they would definitely have a love/hate relationship to match their rival/friend interactions throughout the series. Speedy and Vi would also be entertaining, if only to watch her order him around some more and see what hijinks and adventures they'd get into. It would be more of a comedic relationship, and at least Vi pays some attention to Speedy, compared to Lucille, but then again, I'm not sure she pays attention to much of anything for very long (except maybe tulips).


I used to think there was something between them because of this:

(http://i454.photobucket.com/albums/qq268/Teyandee/Samurai%20Pizza%20Cats%20Kyattou%20Ninden%20Teyandee/BCC2_snapshot.png)

and because Big Al mentioned being married before, and we never saw Junior's father. But now I know Big Al is a dog, and Mother & Junior are probably tanuki (in KNT at least), although it's not like interspecies relationships never happen on this show. It would actually be pretty funny to think of them in a relationship, but I doubt it exists outside of "fanon".

I totally ♥  :speedy: :violet:! But I don't think it'd be the most stable union ... though I agree they'd make a funny, entertaining duo. Lot's of mischief around the Palace! Vi definitely likes Speedy - though not as intensely or consistantly as she likes Bad Bird. Speedy is very protective of Vi, but I think that's more 'cause she's the Princess and it's his job to protect her. I don't think Speedy's all too fond of the idea of having Princess Vi as a girlfriend ... it might scare him off the show :P

Well  :bigcheese: tried to make a group of female ninjas and you know how that ended  >:[  atack!

There are female crows out there, they are just smart enough to get better jobs than being a ninja crow.

Yes, I'd have to agree with you. Speedy looked nervous to go on his date with Vi at the end of Kung Fu Kitty Kontest, and he probably does look out for her just because she's the princess. I think having a girlfriend who could banish you to an island on a whim would make anyone hesitant, but then again, most of the main female characters on the show would be pretty dangerous to hook up with. >:[ :O

At the end of KNT, is said that Fran is still Bucky girlfriend.

And there is also Bad Bird and Carla....

Good point. :francine: is probably the least dangerous, though she's had some 'claws-out' moments of her own. She may not be as dangerous as the other girls, but she'd definitely keep her partner on a tight budget!

BTW, thought I'd point out ...

(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e272/armyboots/SPCSinging1-1.jpg)

... This is Bad Bird with Polly. I always knew it was, but I didn't think about it in the context of the picture. What's he trying to do, hear Polly's heartbeat?  ;)
 

Thats a good question, Iam not sure what hes trying to do.

 Anyway I cant picture Speedy with Polly, I dont know why though. I do see Speedy with Lucille.
Guido with Francine, oviously :)

With Polly I Created my own Character, Speedys Youngest Brother for her. His name is Ceaser by the way.
If I could Elaborate more on that I would probably do it in the Fan Works section. If people want me to elaborate more, that is.

How'd this even start?

back on topic.
Vi/Catton

:huh: ... ?:| :O

It started because I mentioned couples I thought worked
Vi/Catton  :-\ :huh:

vi only wants to get shot out from cattons cannons....but she will get tired of that soon so they probably don't fit together.....

 ;) and  ;] , because the two are my favorite characters and they have the most hints

I can think of a few off the top of my head, not all though:

"Pollys Magical flute": Speedy obviously cares about what Polly thinks of him and refers to her as "kitten" which is pretty much the human equivilant of "Babe"

"Terror of prisoner island": when they lose contact with Speedy and she wouldnt stop talking about him

"Gone with Ginzu": after the fight with Fingers, Speedy is near death and Polly holds him in her arms and cries begging him to speak to her

"Speedys double time trick": well it sure doesnt look like Pollys dressed for a mission, but more for a date, and near the begginning of the episode, when Polly reminds him of the "mission" she blushes and hide her face her face from him, why would she do that if she was telling him about the mission? I think Polly had a secret agenda there

"the Big Comet Caper": Yeah it was a rushed relationship, but hey they are together and thats canon, I thought of it as a happy ending, and a good one at that.

in other words

I always thought of Guido and Polly as just freinds, MOST of the Guido + Polly hints where dub edits

such as:

"Those transforming felines": Guido calling Polly "sexy" was an obvious dub edit and the whole proposal thing in "Emperor Fred Does Hard Time" was also a dub edit and intended to be a joke at that,

Guido will always have Lucille

at the very end they are...kinda...a couple

I think Speedy and Polly are an easy choice, too. Lucille may be his favorite girl to flirt with, but Polly seems to understand him better than anyone else.

Guido is such a "wild romantic rover," he could probably make himself fit with any girl.

Bad Bird and Karla are the most obvious couple on the show, and they certainly had chemistry.

Naturally that leaves Princess Vi out in the cold, and I'm not sure who she could end up with. I picture her having an endless series of suitors. Every time she gets bored with one, she sends him to Prisoner Island.

Big Cheese is already in love with himself.

I have a weird feeling that Jerry and Francine could work out, age difference aside. They have a lot in common when you think about it. They're both characters who endure a lot of frustration and try to keep things functional, despite the chaos caused by their bosses.

These made me laugh...


...and this one creeped me out. ._. Maybe they'd have a good business partnership or something.

Is it too late for throwing more couples out? Because Bat Cat and Walkie Talkie have been in my head...

That... is a pairing I never would have thought of myself, and it's absolutely hilarious. Somehow, it seems like it would work. But I can just imagine on their wedding day, all the guests are quickly bored to sleep while the two of them exchange their vows, which are each about 20 pages long.