Past of the SPC/KNT characters

[Daisensei]

There are few informations in the SPC series about the past and the origin of the characters. Even in the original Japanese series (KNT), which is more explanatory, few clues are given. Owing to this, I decided to post a topic where everybody would discuss what happened before the very 1st episode of the series. I like to leave this topic as free as possible, so well stablished facts, speculative theories, simple guessing or somebody's fan fiction, all of these would be perfectly acceptable.

To start this topic, I want to make the following question:
How could get the leadership of the group? Moreover, how he got his Ginzu/Masamasa sword?

Any posting will be welcomed.

[Doctor Scraps]

As I've commented on numerous times, Bad Bird is the only character whom we really get to see any backstory for...

Bad Bird grew up as Birdy Badbird, one of the many sons of a notorious Ninja Crow. Birdy grew up wanting to be just like his father, the "Original Dirty Bird" (see Episode about the Nuclear Potatoe)
However, his path to being a Ninja Crow would seperate him from his childhood lover, Carla, whom Bad Bird would encounter in a chance meeting at a circus where Carla was a performer.

[Violet]

That's not true, we also get to see how Big Cheese met the Ninja Crows in Samurai Savings Time, and even see a bit of young Big Al.

[NPC]

I've never really thought about beginnings in the SPC universe. If it hadn't had an "end" I could have imagined it going on forever...and ever...and ever... uh, yeah.

I suppose since even KNT(correct me if I'm wrong) didn't really address this, the only thing we have(short of interviewing the creators) is fanfiction.

*grin*

[Mechadon]

I see the world of SPC as a post-apocalyptic future. It takes place millions of years after the human race nuked itself to death. But a few centuries before the humans nuked themselves they reached a pinnacle in cybernetics. They were able to fuse themselves and other animals with highly advanced machinery and nano-technology. After the humans self-destruction the enhanced animaloids took over. The animaloids attempted a few times to follow in their creators footsteps. Time and time again they too came close to self-destruction. Looking at old human records they decided to follow a more ancient approach to their society; adopting the ideology of imperial Japan.

[NPC]

But why would they choose Japan out of all the cultures?

Follow the US's footsteps, Little Tokyo! ^-^

[Mechadon]

Don't ask me why! They just did! Maybe the tried other old ideologies that failed.

But feel free to ask any other questions about my twisted view of the SPC world.

[NPC]

Ok, I'll quote Daisensei:

How could  get the leadership of the group? Moreover, how he got his Ginzu/Masamasa sword?

[Daisensei]

But why would they choose Japan out of all the cultures?

Follow the US's footsteps, Little Tokyo! ^-^

Actually in the SPC38 (A Mission in Manhattan) episode one can see animaloids living in United States. In some fan fiction works one can see mention to British Pizza Cat. I might think in Brazilian Pizza Cats too.   

I see the world of SPC as a post-apocalyptic future. It takes place millions of years after the human race nuked itself to death. But a few centuries before the humans nuked themselves they reached a pinnacle in cybernetics. They were able to fuse themselves and other animals with highly advanced machinery and nano-technology. After the humans self-destruction the enhanced animaloids took over. The animaloids attempted a few times to follow in their creators footsteps. Time and time again they too came close to self-destruction. Looking at old human records they decided to follow a more ancient approach to their society; adopting the ideology of imperial Japan.

That could be a promising theory. Does anybody wish to develop it deeper? 

[NPC]

How could get the leadership of the group? Moreover, how he got his Ginzu/Masamasa sword?

Well...

After looking at each of the characters (Speedy, Polly, Guido), I think Speedy was the logical choice. True, he is a clown, getting himself into tight spots, clumsy as heck, etc. The KNT Narrator even calls him a goof. ^-^ However, when he finds himself in a fight, the clumsiness disappears(but pops up again every so often throughout the fight ) and you see why he is the leader of the Cats: Speedy is the best fighter. Polly and Guido each have their respective strengths, but Speedy is the one who really leads the fray. In battles is probably when we can see Speedy's (and Yattaro's) character. Selfless and valient(I can never spell that word. Sorry.) is how I would describe him. That's all besides his Cat Eye Slash techinque, which the Ninja Crows fear above death itself.  I think is even called "The Killing Attack" or something along those lines in the original. Finally, Speedy is the only one who seems to be able to deal effectively with warriors like Bad Bird(Who I think is actually the single best fighter in the series.).

That's my opinion.


As for the Ginzu sword...

KNT calls it "The Mysterious Blade." (I think) It is related to the Supreme Catatonic(Or so I think), so I believe Speedy retrieved it from a shrine, temple, dark-cave-of-teh-Cat-gods(For lack of a better idea), rather than inheiriting it. Destiny, or something.

[Mechadon]

That could be a promising theory. Does anybody wish to develop it deeper? 

I'd also like to comment on the various weapons and techniques used by the characters. I don't think of anything from the series as "magic"; everything from the Ginzu sword to the Supreme Catatonic is a result of very advanced but also very ancient technologies. I like Neglected's idea of Speedy retrieving his sword from an ancient reliquary.

I got this idea from when I watched the second episode of KNT. They explained that Polly's "Beckoning Cat" attack is caused by electromagnets. So I took this concept further to explain that the magnets are controlled by a computer in her armour system that lets her specifically target her enemies instead of pulling all things metal toward her.

Notice that I prefer the term 'armour system' over just calling it armour or a suit. I think of their power suits as more than just armour but a power assist system that amplifies their strength and reflexes just like the Master Chief’s Mjolnir armour.

Side Note: I bet some of you are having difficulty with me spelling "armor" with a "our" at the end. Well, I'm Canadian so deal with it.

[felineki]

In KNT, it's referred to as "Youtou Masamasa". The "You" part does inded mean "mysterious", "spooky", or something along those lines. It definitely has a relation to the Supreme Catatonic/Nyagoking. The giant robot was first unlocked when the sword came into contact with the statue that houses it. And for each time after that, the sword's hilt is always seen sending a signal of some sort that opens the statue. So there's definitely some kind of relation between the two. Perhaps the sword was forged by the same people that built the Supreme Catatonic?

[NPC]

...Which inevitably brings up the question:

"Just who is the 'Great Warrior'?"

...On a side note, I was rewatching the second half of Bad Bird Uncaged, and I noticed that Speedy says, "I wonder if he left this sword for a reason?" o_O I guess the dubbing crew thought that Speedy was given a new Ginzu instead of the sword just being returned to him after he dropped it. (Klutz. Dropping your magic sword off a cliff.  )

I'm sure the Great Warrior has something to do with the sword, but that was "lost in translation," as they say.

...Regarding Mecha's idea, technicly the SPC were supposed to be robotic, but were shown more as flesh-and-blood types, despite their appearance. But what Mecha said about an "armor system" is a good idea.

[Mechadon]

First. Thanks for supporting my idea.

...Regarding Mecha's idea, technicly the SPC were supposed to be robotic, but were shown more as flesh-and-blood types, despite their appearance. But what Mecha said about an "armor system" is a good idea.

I'm not saying that the cats are NOT robots without their armour. I'm just saying that the suits are interfaced with whatever cybernetic enhancements they were born with.

That's right! You heard me. I believe that every citizen of Little Tokyo was BORN with their cybernetic parts. Now how does that work you might ask? Well my explanation requires certain terminologies that are unsuitable for a younger audience. I'm still waiting to join the Nihonbare boards but when I do, I'll explain it in there.

Stay tuned! More of Mechadon's CRAZY ideas are to follow!

[KyoZaber]

My guess is that each of the cats were found by Big Al.
I hate to sound too cliche` So I'll add my own little spin on things.

Big Al was buisy setting up his branch of the Samurai Pizza Cats. 
Chances are he was in discuise, and was running job interviews.
I'm envisioning something like Madem` Rattina's modeling school... Only... A little dumbed down to allow for those who had potential to well... not die.

I'm also assumeing that General Catton would've been there, because he seemes to be the older of the group.
He would've given advice, and would've had insight as to what would make a good warrior.

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As for the quinundrum of Speedy being the leader...

I think it would be a better question to ask yourselves... What makes a true leader?
Then ask yourselves... Does Speedy fufill that?

I believe he does. While he is a complete jerk at times, and at other times I do think he deserves to get the living crap beaten outa him, he does fufill what I think a brave leader, and a hero should be.

[Alistair Erie]

Speedy is the leader, because he is wearing white.
In Japanese television, the leader either wears red or white, but white is generally the leader, if there is both a red and white member.
Thank you Momoko Akatsutsumi!

[cartoonking10749]

Speedy is the leader, because he is wearing white.
In Japanese television, the leader either wears red or white, but white is generally the leader, if there is both a red and white member.
Thank you Momoko Akatsutsumi!

No argument there. Speedy's white clothing with a hint of red on the helmet represents the Japanese flag.

[piibii]

...On a side note, I was rewatching the second half of Bad Bird Uncaged, and I noticed that Speedy says, "I wonder if he left this sword for a reason?" o_O I guess the dubbing crew thought that Speedy was given a new Ginzu instead of the sword just being returned to him after he dropped it. (Klutz. Dropping your magic sword off a cliff.  )

I'm sure the Great Warrior has something to do with the sword, but that was "lost in translation," as they say.

That scene is heavily cut in the SPC version of the episode. In the original KNT version, Speedy actually managed to impale the Warrior with his sword while he was blinded by the bright sunlight. If you watch the SPC episode carefully, you can still see the Ginzu sword sticking from the Warrior's chest when he speaks to Speedy.

[NPC]

First. Thanks for supporting my idea.

...Regarding Mecha's idea, technicly the SPC were supposed to be robotic, but were shown more as flesh-and-blood types, despite their appearance. But what Mecha said about an "armor system" is a good idea.

I'm not saying that the cats are NOT robots without their armour. I'm just saying that the suits are interfaced with whatever cybernetic enhancements they were born with.

That's right! You heard me. I believe that every citizen of Little Tokyo was BORN with their cybernetic parts. Now how does that work you might ask? Well my explanation requires certain terminologies that are unsuitable for a younger audience. I'm still waiting to join the Nihonbare boards but when I do, I'll explain it in there.

Stay tuned! More of Mechadon's CRAZY ideas are to follow!

I always thought that how they looked, cybernetic and all, was not important. They're robots, yet they don't act like robots. I think it's just something you're supposed to laugh at and not think about.

...Am I making any sense at all?

Many things in KNT/SPC are in there to make you laugh and just enjoy the show. I don't think the creators intended for every little thing to have a reason, like "Animaloids" being born and dying of old age. It's just something that's there, but is never really explained, for the simple fact that it isn't doesn't need an explaination.

[felineki]

While that is very true, sometimes it's nice to imagine explanations for such things just for fun.