Sad State of Affairs (Post-SPC)

[CyberFox]

The current generation of Anime fans only care for:
Naruto
InuYasha
Bleach
Fullmetal Alchimest
One Piece (even though 4Kids butchered it)
Dragon Ball (Original,Z)
Pokemon
Gundam
Yu-Gi-Oh!

but, They never care for the quirky anime
Plus they never cared for Samurai Pizza Cats
They ONLY quirky anime they loved is BoBoBo-Bo Bo-BoBo

They see animes like Pizza Cats, Kimba as old
and they never care for that!

[BurkeWorld]

You like making a lot of threads in the wrong section, don't ya?

Burkey

[CyberFox]

You like making a lot of threads in the wrong section, don't ya?

Burkey

look,
It's a thread showing pity to SPC
it belongs on the thread i posted it in

[cartoonking10749]

The current generation of Anime fans only care for:
Naruto
InuYasha
Bleach
Fullmetal Alchimest
One Piece (even though 4Kids butchered it)
Dragon Ball (Original,Z)
Gundam
Yu-Gi-Oh!

but, They never care for the quirky anime
Plus they never cared for Samurai Pizza Cats
They ONLY quirky anime they loved is BoBoBo-Bo Bo-BoBo

They see animes like Pizza Cats, Kimba as old
and they never care for that!

That's not really true. We still care for Samurai Pizza Cats.
Although it might have little recognition today due to few resources like DVDs & videos, SPC/KNT is more of a hidden treasure which can be discovered and adored online.

It is no lost cause as Anime fans are very eager anime-treasure hunters. Know what I mean?

[KageReneko]

Anyway the most of them don't know SPC, if they could watch it, they would REALLY love it cuz very few animes are like SPC...

[Andy]

The current generation of Anime fans only care for:
Naruto
InuYasha
Bleach
Fullmetal Alchimest
One Piece (even though 4Kids butchered it)
Dragon Ball (Original,Z)
Gundam
Yu-Gi-Oh!

but, They never care for the quirky anime
Plus they never cared for Samurai Pizza Cats
They ONLY quirky anime they loved is BoBoBo-Bo Bo-BoBo

They see animes like Pizza Cats, Kimba as old
and they never care for that!

You forgot to mention Pokemon.

Some of those animes are really good and there are tons of others only die hard anime fans know of that are considered classics. I should know since I've been to two anime clubs (one in high school and one in college). But you are right that some of the old American dubbed animes that were around in the early and mid 90's are not really appreciated now, but there are still die hard fans of those old animes that are still around and willing to show the next generation of cartoon watchers of why those shows were popular back then. Thank goodness we have the internet that is the only thing the government doesn't control. So don't go all sappy about that some of the young fans today don't know anything about the animes we once knew. They will still go online and see it for themselves and we'll get a whole new generation of fans. So, it's not a total loss.

You like making a lot of threads in the wrong section, don't ya?

Burkey

Don't get all pushy, Burke. He's just making a statement that is worth talking about. So don't worry about it.

[CyberFox]

[to Andy: Fixed!]
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The only old school anime on TV right now is Gigantor but, the strange thing is that it's on [adult swim]!
Kimba & Astro Boy are now on DVD but, The Box Sets for both animes are pricey

Another pity is
It's because of the current Anime fans that we'll never see good shows like Doraemon, Kaiketsu Zorori or Animal Yokocho here in the US. all we're gonna get is Animes based on Shonen Jump manga and Stereotypical Animes

[Marurun]

I guess I'm not part of "this" generationt then because I don't watch any of those, except Fulmetal. I've watched plenty of quirky anime but they're just not in the USA yet. Like Animal Yokocho, that's very quirky and insane. By the way... What's that Kaiketsu Zorori show for your sig? It looks cute

[CyberFox]

I guess I'm not part of "this" generationt then because I don't watch any of those, except Fulmetal. I've watched plenty of quirky anime but they're just not in the USA yet. Like Animal Yokocho, that's very quirky and insane. By the way... What's that Kaiketsu Zorori show for your sig? It looks cute

Kaiketsu Zorori is a alleged spoof of "Kaiketsu Zorro"
there's only 1 sub of this anime available
http://animesuki.com/series.php/626.html
enjoy!

[Andy]

[to Andy: Fixed!]
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What do you mean by "fixed"?

[CyberFox]

[to Andy: Fixed!]
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What do you mean by "fixed"?

I added Pokemon to the list

[adam808]

Well, I keep running into a few people in my area now that are interested in SPC once I remind them. They just found it easier for me to bun them DVDs rather than download. Convenience since I'm closer and can just give it to them.
Not many take an interest in Eto Rangers, though.

[Violet]

Kaiketsu Zorori is a alleged spoof of "Kaiketsu Zorro"
there's only 1 sub of this anime available
http://animesuki.com/series.php/626.html
enjoy!

I've watched Zorori alot in Japan and downloaded episodes.  Never saw any subtitled before.  It's been a very successful show in Japan.

[BurkeWorld]

You like making a lot of threads in the wrong section, don't ya?

Burkey

look,
It's a thread showing pity to SPC
it belongs on the thread i posted it in

Ohh, the newbie has fangs, I'd better watch out.

Looks like this topic has hardly any SPC discussion at all, but whatever, just trying to keep things organized, so sue me.

Burkey

[Daisensei]

Humm... but this topic has been moved from Off-Topic Discussion board, hasn't it? 

[CyberFox]

Humm... but this topic has been moved from Off-Topic Discussion board, hasn't it? 

NOT ANYMORE
This thread is meant for pity for SPC

[PizzaCatFan]

The current generation of Anime fans only care for:
Naruto
InuYasha
Bleach
Fullmetal Alchimest
One Piece (even though 4Kids butchered it)
Dragon Ball (Original,Z)
Pokemon
Gundam
Yu-Gi-Oh!

but, They never care for the quirky anime
Plus they never cared for Samurai Pizza Cats
They ONLY quirky anime they loved is BoBoBo-Bo Bo-BoBo

They see animes like Pizza Cats, Kimba as old
and they never care for that!

Took the words right out of my hands here.

My view of it all is this.  Many newer anime these days are overhyped to the point where it gets annoying hearing about them.  Many of these 'overhyped' titles are...for the most part, just average animated series, much like what we have for American-produced titles.  There's really only been a few 'standout' titles over the past years on both the American and Japanese front for animated series.

Out of the anime you mention above, the only ones I find worth mentioning to anyone is Fullmetal, and Gundam.  Fullmetal for its plot devices, Gundam for its significance in the anime medium.  Naruto, Inuysha, et al....all 'average' to 'mediocre' material.  I tried to get into them, but they just didn't hold appeal with me for long.  Pokemon/Digimon/Yu Gi Oh = all part of a fad that was here and gone within a few years.

For the record, the closest thing to 'quirky' humor like that of SPC, that I could find, was in the anime series. "Azumanga Daioh".  Trouble is, it doesn't give me that 'feeling' I first got when I was catching SPC episodes left and right on TV back in the late '90s.  Yeah, it's good stuff, funny, makes me feel warm inside, but it's not the same.  Plus it's very overhyped.

Many so-called 'anime fans' these days ....they're a bit of a spoiled bunch, and only use two sources for anime.  They watch it on Cartoon Network or some other equivalent of a TV station, or...they dive into the dark recesses of the Internet and sniff around for mp3/mp4, wmv or DviX files of their favorite anime titles that are 'hot' in Japan at the moment.  Unfortunately, SPC is little-known, and never being big in Japan, and only having a fanbase in North America and Europe, it's often overlooked by the folks who supply 'fans' with anime to download.

There's been some late late nights...where I am up early enough to catch those old Gigantor episodes on [adult swim].  Of course, this kind of thing is a bit beyond what I'm used to, due to the series' age and being in B&W.  Most anime, and animated series, post-2000, are done on computers now.  Little, if any, cel animated series are out there.  SPC, Kimba...those are still in traditional cel animation, which is not 'flashy' enough for the newer generations it seems.

I'm all for seeing SPC's appreciation and fanbase grow, along with other older 'classic / cult classic' animated series.  However, if the current generation can't appreciate it, and enjoy it like ours has, they may never will.  Let's hope I'm wrong.  From what I am seeing, writers of Japanese anime and animated series are starting to run out of innovative ideas, so in time, I think people will start to turn back and give the classic things a chance.  Time shall tell.

For now, I am just glad I got into anime with Samurai Pizza Cats, over something more modern and fresh.  It is a true 'diamond in the rough' in terms of anime dubs.  Saban went and took an untranslated unknown (They had the untranslated scripts, but threw them in the paper shredder), and turned it into something that was unique, fun, and has a small, but very dedicated fanbase.  Very FEW anime, if any others exist, have done that, and none of todays 'hits' will have the same dedication.  It ran at a time when things seemed to be running at a 'high' in the U.S., and creativity was allowed to flow freely, with little 'clamping down' on things (well, save for 8 UNAIRED episodes).  Nowadays, SPC wouldn't have as good a chance on TV, and not just because of its age either.  I wouldn't doubt more episodes than the original 8 would have to be scrapped from the listing.

Whew..*wipes forehead* that was long.

[CyberFox]

Yes,
but the BIG difference is Japan gets the good stuff like Kaiketsu Zorori while we get utter grabage like Loonatics Unleashed

[PizzaCatFan]

Well, even what we may think is 'good' over there, may be utter crap to other people.

Now 'Loonatics'...I have not bothered seeing.  I knew it was going to be bad from the start.  All these failed attempts to 'reinvent' the classic Looney Toons characters....or any other classic cartoon mascots for that matter.  Give me the classic shorts any day...those are what I grew up with.

Anywhoo, to some extent I agree, but also disagree.  Anime distributors here only license what they 'think' will be popular here, based on market trends...and also what is being fansubbed the most (the latter isn't used so much anymore to gauge what will sell)  Sadly this often leaves out some very innovative works, and those works that ARE licensed and released, get little if any attention.  I could name a few examples offhand, some which I have seen.  For me, "Haibane Renmei" and "Someday's Dreamers" come to mind.  Both are slow paced, visual works of art, and they boast a good amount of drama.  They've been mostly overlooked by the masses.

As far as 'anime on TV" is concerned, they will only run action-packed titles (Naruto), dark moody things (Fullmetal Alchemist), or kiddie fare along the likes of "Pokemon" where characters battle each other with monsters, cards, or tops.  No good comedies (Ranma 1/2), no dramatic things (the two I mentioned above), nothing overly sudsy (Fushigi Yuugi) no fantasy/RPG style things (Magic Knight Rayearth, Lodoss) and where the heck is my MAHOU SHOUJO anime!? (Sailor Moon, Cardcaptor Sakura).  Nowhere to be found.

The only worthy American material I have heard about, include the likes of Teen Titans and Family Guy.  Either that or it could just be more overhype.  It's too bad it seems that, for comedy to be 'funny' in the U.S., it has to consist mostly of 'potty humor'.  That's just what I noticed though.  I am not a big TV person, as you can probably tell.

[SCerviche]

hey hey hey i love Dbz and yu-gi-oh! but i also like SPC, i just try to keep an open mind to every thing i wach.