Pizza Cats DVDs

[Threaux]

I believe Disney has no interest on putting Samurai Pizza Cats on TV nor on DVD

That's true, Disney is not gonna make a DVD for a show that has such a small fanbase (they are all about profit).  Yet as the cost of DVD production goes down and the active fanbase grows larger we may someday see an real SPC DVD release.  The new blue-ray discs could fit the entire series on one or two DVD's and this would make releasing them much less costly.

[Anonymous]

The company which released the discs in france was Fox kids.

my box set has their logo everywhere.

neko

[Violet]

Yet as the cost of DVD production goes down and the active fanbase grows larger we may someday see an real SPC DVD release.  The new blue-ray discs could fit the entire series on one or two DVD's and this would make releasing them much less costly.

That's another reason why it's important for us to keep interest alive in SPC.

[CyberFox]

Maybe we can make them suffer
by sending them 100 mil. letters demanding to put the Samurai Pizza Cats on JETIX and on DVD

[D-Mac]

my box set has their logo everywhere.

neko

I noticed the Fox Kids logo too on the box art I've seen, which left me really puzzled at first, with the company being sold 2 years prior to the French DVD release and all.
But from what I've gathered on wikipedia, It's most likely that while still owned by Disney, Fox Kids  had not been rebranded in to "Jetix" in France yet.

Also of note, on all the photos of packing I've seen from the 2nd box set here, the Fox Kids logo has been replaced by the Jetix one, yet the Declic Logo still remains, as it was on the 1st box set as well.

This all pretty much convinces me that while Disney/Jetix own the rights to the show, Declic Images is the company licensed to release and distribute it on DVD in France.

I think I wanna be a lawyer now.

[Methid Man]

Last I heard, Fox Kids still existed, just not in America.

-- Sam the Methid Man

[Artemis-kun]

Well there is always an option of perhaps getting a petition together and sending it to disney.. can't hurt anyways, heh. And, as far as distribution of episodes that already exist, the best method would be to either do individual torrents or a batch of 13-26 episodes a shot. I know it's been a couple years since I've done dvd -> divx, but even when I'd gotten out of it it was still fairly easy.. so I can only imagine now how it must be. Also, considering the average size of a 26 min episode these days works out to 130-150 megs and is still pretty much dvd quality, it shows that the tools have gotten far better then last I was into this stuff. If anyone wants help with encoding things, though, I am willing to help, I'll just need a bit of practice to get my hand back into it ^^ That is, if no one else is able to.  As for creating multiple resoltuions, for say, psp owners or the like, there are tools out there that make conversion of large sized episodes of things quite simple. For the psp owners, there's PSPVideo9 and for others I'd suggest PocketDivxEncoder, both make very nice re-encodes in quite an impressive amoutn of time (video9 about 10-15 mins for a standard 26 min ep and PDE takes about 5-6 mins on my machine - AMD Athlon XP 2500+ @ 1.7 ghz and 1 gig (1024 megs) of ram, everyone's milage will vary though)

[PizzaCatFan]

I thought Shuki Levy and Haim Saban teamed up to do the backing music if my recollection of the closing credits are right.  Music rights are almost ALWAYS a seperate negotiation when dealing with putting any TV series out on DVD, animated or live action.

I sniffed around the two big publishing sites also one time for SPC music info.  I forgot which one (BMI or ASCAP) had the info, but WEA Music Group's publishing arm, Warner-Tamerlane was listed.

That's a few big loopholes Disney / BVS would  have to jump through, assuming Saban still holds rights to his own composed work through said publisher.

Thus why, in cases where music rights are too expensive to license, production companies often subsitute the music.  Happens a lot with TV series that have songs by real bands / artists.  To rip out the soundtrack of songs (Including the opening theme we all love) and replace it all with orchestrated dramatic music Disney cooks up....yeah, more dramatic, but it just wouldn't be the same.

I'm not sure how things like this in other countries are dealt with, but here in the U.S., broadcast and home video licensing are two completely different games, and audio and visual aspects are seperate aspects DVD distributors have to negotiate rights over.  Confusing, and utterly stupid IMHO.  Anime distibutors have to put up with the same junk, thus why sometimes some BGM tracks have to be replaced in some series with repeats of other tracks.

If any sort of 'petition' is to be done again, it should be hand-written, and only that in the form of signatures and letters.

Not trying to sound all 'doom and gloom' when it comes to our favorite furry (or are they metal...meh. ^-^;; ) felines.  Capitalisim stinks when it comes to the entertainment world.

[Daisensei]

Not trying to sound all 'doom and gloom' when it comes to our favorite furry (or are they metal...meh. ^-^;; ) felines.  Capitalisim stinks when it comes to the entertainment world.

[offtopic mode]
Yeah, but the paradox of capitalism is not showed only in the entertainment, but in the whole intelectual production of mankind. For example, imagine the cost for the production of one chair. The cost of two chairs is roughly twice of the one chair, so it's reasonable each buyer paying for his own chair. But what is the cost of a thought, of a idea, or of a story?  The cost is the very same, regardless if it is shared by one, two, thousands or millions of people. Therefore the immaterial product is the best one to make money from almost nothing. The artists must be paid, I know, but they earn only a few percents of the profit. The money goes mainly for whom do nothing to produce. Poor artists, poor fans. 
[/offtopic mode] Sorry for being off-topic.

[CyberFox]

Not trying to sound all 'doom and gloom' when it comes to our favorite furry (or are they metal...meh. ^-^;; ) felines.  Capitalisim stinks when it comes to the entertainment world.

[offtopic mode]
Yeah, but the paradox of capitalism is not showed only in the entertainment, but in the whole intelectual production of mankind. For example, imagine the cost for the production of one chair. The cost of two chairs is roughly twice of the one chair, so it's reasonable each buyer paying for his own chair. But what is the cost of a thought, of a idea, or of a story?  The cost is the very same, regardless if it is shared by one, two, thousands or millions of people. Therefore the immaterial product is the best one to make money from almost nothing. The artists must be paid, I know, but they earn only a few percents of the profit. The money goes mainly for whom do nothing to produce. Poor artists, poor fans. 
[/offtopic mode] Sorry for being off-topic.

The problem is nobody knows who created the Samuai Pizza Cats

[Rurouni Wolf]

The problem is nobody knows who created the Samuai Pizza Cats

Nobody translated the Japanesse credits to figure this one out?

[adam808]

What do you mean who made it? The original show idea?

[Violet]

The Japanese fans I've communicated with say there is no one person who created KNT, it was a group of people. I know Hamada Yoshimi drew some manga that had early versions of the characters and some stories, but he might only be the manga artist, and may have been working with others (writers, other artists, editors) even then.  Tenko is responsible for designing the characters in the form they appear in the animation.  I don't know who else might have been involved in the creation of KNT from the beginning.

[PizzaCatFan]

Sort of like what CLAMP does....  They are a group who create manga, some of which have gotten turned into very popular anime series.

Seems like the same situation here with KNT/SPC, but the big difference is that little is known about the group that created it.

All this time I thought KNT/SPC was first an anime, and then had a few chapters of manga done to it.  There's other anime titles out there that started as anime, then they were developed into manga later.  This is not a common thing, but it happens.

[Violet]

I think Hamada Yoshimi's manga wasn't actually published until the show was being worked on, or was already out.  But the stories in it may have been out earlier in other manga or magazines, then collected together into the book I and a few other fans here have.

[CyberFox]

Sort of like what CLAMP does....  They are a group who create manga, some of which have gotten turned into very popular anime series.

Seems like the same situation here with KNT/SPC, but the big difference is that little is known about the group that created it.

All this time I thought KNT/SPC was first an anime, and then had a few chapters of manga done to it.  There's other anime titles out there that started as anime, then they were developed into manga later.  This is not a common thing, but it happens.

The BIG difference is KNT flopped in japan
It gotten low ratings during it's 2 seasons

[ApacheMan2K]

The Japanese fans I've communicated with say there is no one person who created KNT, it was a group of people. I know Hamada Yoshimi drew some manga that had early versions of the characters and some stories, but he might only be the manga artist, and may have been working with others (writers, other artists, editors) even then.  Tenko is responsible for designing the characters in the form they appear in the animation.  I don't know who else might have been involved in the creation of KNT from the beginning.

is this true?    i always thought the man that conceived KNT was Goh Mihara. but, now that you mention it, Goh Mihara might not be a person, but a group of people. i mean, there's Hajime Yatate, which is really a pseudonym for everyone at Sunrise. so, you might be right.

based on this, i'd say the group would consist of people like Satoru Akahori (chief writer), Noritaka "Tenko" Suzuki (character & mecha design), and Kenji Kawai (music composer).

[adam808]

I had a chance to bid on that manga, but waited...I haven't seen it since. 

[Violet]

The BIG difference is KNT flopped in japan
It gotten low ratings during it's 2 seasons

Actually any anime that makes it to 2 seasons in Japan is considered to have done "ok".  New anime comes out so often there, it's only the most popular that can last longer.  There are tons of anime that come and go in Japan, that you'll never see or hear of here because it really did "flop".

[Tigerdbnb]

theres a website called ioffer with the complete set on DVD for only 25$!!!