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« Reply #240 on: December 11, 2006, 03:00:43 am »

Because Polly keeps hitting them with frying pans when they're not expecting it.
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« Reply #241 on: December 11, 2006, 03:14:06 am »

I think that's as good a reason as any. Want to keep as much protection as possible, because you never know when she's going to strike next. Tongue As for the "bad haircut" angle, there were some model sheets drawn up for the studio that show what their heads look like helmetless, and, well, they don't pull off the look quite as well as Polly, IMO.


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« Reply #242 on: December 11, 2006, 04:16:01 am »

I think that's as good a reason as any. Want to keep as much protection as possible, because you never know when she's going to strike next. Tongue As for the "bad haircut" angle, there were some model sheets drawn up for the studio that show what their heads look like helmetless, and, well, they don't pull off the look quite as well as Polly, IMO.

This is it? They were scared and shy about taking off their helmets just bceause of this?! I think they look quite okay. I mean, their ears are shorter than normal, but who cares? Also, would this be what Speedy Cerviche and Guido Anchovy would look like without their armor too? Because they don't look like their wearing much! Shocked
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« Reply #243 on: December 11, 2006, 02:21:01 pm »

They don't like taking off their stuff because like the Big Cheese they look too much like stick figures.
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« Reply #244 on: December 11, 2006, 03:50:29 pm »

I got a mystery for you all. What ever happened to Bucky? Gender Bender Butterflies had a happy ending with Bucky changing back to normal. Yet in the next episode Francine is single again. What gives?

Someone should write a fan fiction about what happened with Bucky.

Here is my interpretation: *I may be using terminologies that could be considered inappropriate for this forum* *I honestly don't know* *There have been inconsistencies in what has been allowed and what has been censored* *Live and learn is what I say* *Trial and error are the essence of scientific method*

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Back at Francine's apartment and after many hours of love making.

Francine: Oh! Bucky I love you! You are the best thing to ever happen to me! I will love you forever!

Bucky: I love you to kitten.

*kisses*

Francine: Bucky dear, it would make me sooo happy if you came to the Pizza Cat for launch every day. You know, Hang out with me and my friends for an hour. What do you say?

Bucky: Sorry honey, I can't do that.

Francine: Why not!?

Bucky: I can't eat at Pizza Cat. Your pizzas give me heartburn.

Francine: HEARTBURN!!

Bucky: But I don't see why...

Francine: GET OUT! GET OUT NOW! GET OFF MY BED!

Bucky: WHAT!!

Francine: YOU HEARD ME! Nobody talks about my restaurant like that! I DON'T WANT TO SEE YOUR FACE EVER AGAIN!

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« Reply #245 on: December 11, 2006, 04:48:40 pm »

Heartburn... lol
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« Reply #246 on: December 11, 2006, 05:19:08 pm »

I can see that happening. Grin While she's not quite as prone to them as Polly, Francine does have her own outbursts at times.
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« Reply #247 on: December 11, 2006, 08:42:26 pm »

They don't like taking off their stuff because like the Big Cheese they look too much like stick figures.

I tend to disagree. I think they look alright, their helmets sometimes in my opinon, make their heads look out of proportions. I mean, if anyone's head is out of proportion, it would have to two people I know of. Big Cheese, since your cybernetic, please, get a new head!

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« Reply #248 on: December 11, 2006, 10:48:02 pm »

This should be formed into the properly named "SPC Mysteries Thread." I'm sure there are greater mysteries than yours.  Roll Eyes

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« Reply #249 on: December 12, 2006, 07:34:08 am »

I got a mystery for you all. What ever happened to Bucky? Gender Bender Butterflies had a happy ending with Bucky changing back to normal. Yet in the next episode Francine is single again. What gives?

Someone should write a fan fiction about what happened with Bucky.
In the KNT nothing happened to him, since one can see in the KNT 52 (Koon-no-kami Shijou Saidai no Sakusen, or  Big Comet Caper - Part 1in SPC version) Polly Esther saying that Francine has a very stable relationship with Heikichi/Bucky. It seems this character has been wiped out in the SPC version.
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« Reply #250 on: December 12, 2006, 05:14:02 pm »

Wait. So, Francine had a relationship with Bucky throughout the rest of the series? What does she do with him? Keep him under her floorboards? Cause we never see him again.
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« Reply #251 on: December 12, 2006, 05:56:12 pm »

Huh, I didn't know about that. Makes me very eager to see more subtitles KNT episodes to find out what else I might have missed. I guess she was just seeing him "off screen" the whole time... I suppose after the butterfly episode, he didn't really have any importance to the story, so he only gets mentioned in passing.
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« Reply #252 on: December 12, 2006, 09:42:04 pm »

I watched this episode sometime ago, but the only mention about Heikichi (Bucky) is there. As felineki said, he was not so important for the plot, so doesn't appeared anymore in the series. On the second thought, even Otama/Francine was not explored at her full potential in the series. Pity.  Sad
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« Reply #253 on: December 22, 2006, 07:58:13 pm »

I got a mystery for you all. What ever happened to Bucky? Gender Bender Butterflies had a happy ending with Bucky changing back to normal. Yet in the next episode Francine is single again. What gives?

Someone should write a fan fiction about what happened with Bucky.
In the KNT nothing happened to him, since one can see in the KNT 52 (Koon-no-kami Shijou Saidai no Sakusen, or  Big Comet Caper - Part 1in SPC version) Polly Esther saying that Francine has a very stable relationship with Heikichi/Bucky. It seems this character has been wiped out in the SPC version.

Hehehe, thats going to kill Fran/Guido fans...
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« Reply #254 on: December 22, 2006, 08:22:51 pm »

Well guys... I just had an interesting talk with someone who just sqshed my opinionj about the series and got mad cause I didn't accept his version... I'll expose my idea about why Gudo and Polly couldn't execute thier hissatsu movbes in pizza cats are only humens 1...

I think alñready told that I think that the Nyankee swords and armors workd simillar to the Saint Clothes in Saint Seiya, I think the cats have their own spiritual power and physc skills but the armors just increase their physic power while the swords increase the spiritual power...

May be one of the greatest misteries in Teyandee is Polly and Guido didn't show their hissatsu moves until very lsate episodes; my versin is that they hadn't mastered them, when the series starts just Speedy can perform this technique but the other 2 cats still practicing theirs... If I remember correctly wjen Guido and Polly execute yheuir finifher moves they are really angryso this culd help them to expulse their spiritual power (After all thanks to the subbed KNT episode 2 we knew that the Nyankee Ninpo techinques are mechanical)

If I corectly remember Speedy breaks the seal of Masamasa with his spiritual power liberating the other sword so this makes me think that he has mastered his spiritual and mechanical powers; becauise of this he can charge himself in Pizza Cats Only Human 1; we know that his armor ran out of energy and he hadn't any bsattery left so hius spiritual power could work as a temporal battery allowing him stand up and battle a little more...

This guy said "Speedy hasn't spiritual power, just Polly and Guido do; the power is in the Speedy's sword and without it he is nothing"; I believe the 3 swords are magical (Masamasa, Kirakira and Pikapika) and they react to their owners spiritual power for increase the strength and do a really pwerful energy blast

But this guy said "If does Speedy have this spiritual power; whay anyone could use the copy swords in the Gone with the Ginzu episode?"... Well, I can't remember this cap cause hadn't seen it a lot of years ago but I think a thing... May be the Big Cheeseused his robot technology for create copies of Masamasa that also can project energy? After all the ultimate weapon of the Rescue Team also can emit a poweful blast but we know that this weapn is mechanical and not spiritual... I can't remember if bad Bird used Masamasa In Gone with the Ginzu but if he did may be the sword's power releasee the Bad Bird's spiritual power and cause this he could perfect his hissatsu move Majin Kinkuu Ni...

Well, these are some pof my theories and I want you tell mme what do you think, obviously I can't say that this is the ultimate truth cause the series had so many secrets without an answer; your opinions are welcome but I hope you repect all that I think cause althugh the series doesn't support my theories, neither denies them.

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« Reply #255 on: December 22, 2006, 08:50:37 pm »

I don't really see any reason to think Speedy's sword is that different from the other two... the parallels are drawn quite closely between the threee swords when they're used. I think that your idea of Speedy simply having his technique mastered earlier than the other two fits well enough.

In the episode where the Masamasa is copied... I believe the only person who actually used it was Bad Bird, and since he's obviously a skilled fighter in the same league as the Nyankii, I don't think that proves the sword being able to do all of that fancy stuff on its own.

Heh, and right as I type this, I'm working on a MIDI of the "Hissatsu" music from KNT... how fitting.
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« Reply #256 on: December 22, 2006, 10:04:49 pm »

And you are ignoring the fact that Speedy sword is an accident weapon designed by the same extinct race that created the Catatonic.

Lets face it, Speedy sword is special, it rejected Big Cheese when he tried to get it, Speedy can do many attacks with it and don’t get tired at all(While Guido and Polly get tired, that means their swords don’t have power at all). In the Ginzu copies episode, Speedy is having a hard time until that he, for the first time, uses his own power together with the sword, making a stronger attack than the copy Ginzu(Youtou Muramura) and winning the battle.

The other two times when is clear he uses his own power together with the sword are “A Little Bit 'O Luck” when Speedy was so sorry for the trouble he had caused that he was able to create a power shield, that he didn’t used again until the final episode "The Big Comet Caper".

And as some other person has stated in a similar thread, is really common in Japan to give name to swords, even if they aren’t the best swords ever. So just because Guido and Polly swords have a name that doesnt mean they have magical power.
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« Reply #257 on: December 23, 2006, 05:26:04 pm »

Not to kill the lore, but I see Speedy's sword as merely the first thing that they animated.  Being on a tight budget/schedule, they continued to use his sword as the finisher while developing Polly and Guido's finishers.  When they finally finished them, Speedy's finisher had become a feature of the show and they decided not to change it.

Later on, they rationalized the decision by making Speedy the more powerful of the three.  And to Kage with the copy of Speedy's sword: Big Cheese and Jerry obviously had to break the seal on the sword to allow Bad Bird to use it. It probably resulted in a loss of power of the sword, along with features like calling out the catatonic.

Now for my question: If Bad Bird has throwing stars shaped like swastikas, does that make the ninja crows and Big Cheese nazis?

and also, why is Binky ( Speedy's second sword) smaller than the Ginzu?
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« Reply #258 on: December 23, 2006, 07:08:03 pm »

Not to kill the lore, but I see Speedy's sword as merely the first thing that they animated.  Being on a tight budget/schedule, they continued to use his sword as the finisher while developing Polly and Guido's finishers.  When they finally finished them, Speedy's finisher had become a feature of the show and they decided not to change it.

Later on, they rationalized the decision by making Speedy the more powerful of the three.  And to Kage with the copy of Speedy's sword: Big Cheese and Jerry obviously had to break the seal on the sword to allow Bad Bird to use it. It probably resulted in a loss of power of the sword, along with features like calling out the catatonic.

Now for my question: If Bad Bird has throwing stars shaped like swastikas, does that make the ninja crows and Big Cheese nazis?

and also, why is Binky ( Speedy's second sword) smaller than the Ginzu?


Not really, they just focused too much in Speedy even before having money problems, just look at the KNT ending.

The Youtou Muramuras had the same power as the Ginzu sword, since the fake vs real was already used in an earlier episode. The point of that episode was showing that speedy power wasn’t only on the Ginzu sword.

You see, Samurais usually had two swords, and one of the two was smaller than the other. If you want a more complete answer, go and search on the wikipedia.
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« Reply #259 on: January 10, 2007, 05:03:06 pm »

My only problem with the two swords is that they are allways the same length when Speedy attacks.  Allways.
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