SPC Mysteries

[Violet]

Then explain the TMNT reference in the first episode and some others things that have been already talked a lot

Show me the "TNMT reference" in KNT #1 please.  I really don't think the Japanese creators didn't have enough influnce from Japanese shows and culture and needed to turn to a stupid over commercialized American kid's show that wasn't on in Japan for ideas.  Maybe, perhaps, TMNT might have ripped off some stuff from other Japanese influnces that KNT also includes.  But even comparing Pizza Cats to Ninja Turtles should get you sent to Extra's Island.  Sorry, I know a lot of you like it, but I really hate that show.

By the way, real ninjas were nothing like in the movies, sure some were very skilled, but a lot of them were just peasants that happened to have weapons.  (in fact many "ninja weapons" are actually farming tools)  They played only a very minor role in Japanese history.

[Methid Man]

Oh yeah, I remember hearing about ninja weapons originally being farming tools before. Sai were originally used to hold stacks of hay while nunchaku were used to knock down fruits and nuts from trees.

-- Sam the Methid Man

[Blackcat]

         I know that Guido's hair is brown, polly's hair is red. But what colour has speedy's hair?

                      mauwra

Black

[Daisensei]

         I know that Guido's hair is brown, polly's hair is red. But what colour has speedy's hair?

                      mauwra

Black

I have seen only Polly's hair. The other two always wear helmet, so how you can know their hair color? Sorry my ignorance.

[Violet]

         I know that Guido's hair is brown, polly's hair is red. But what colour has speedy's hair?

                      mauwra

Black

I have seen only Polly's hair. The other two always wear helmet, so how you can know their hair color? Sorry my ignorance.

They don't know.  They are just guessing based on the colors you can see.  There are model sheets and fan made doujin that show the guys without their helmets, but not in color.  But they do have samurai style hair, (like Al Dente), so it should probably be dark colors like Black or Brown.

[ApacheMan2K]

that, or maybe he's bald. why else would he never take his helmet off? 

[cartoonking10749]

         I know that Guido's hair is brown, polly's hair is red. But what colour has speedy's hair?

                     mauwra

Black

I have seen only Polly's hair. The other two always wear helmet, so how you can know their hair color? Sorry my ignorance.

They don't know.  They are just guessing based on the colors you can see.  There are model sheets and fan made doujin that show the guys without their helmets, but not in color.  But they do have samurai style hair, (like Al Dente), so it should probably be dark colors like Black or Brown.

Dark colours I agree. Yet, I have some clues while observing the male members of the NY Pizza Cats since they have the same facial colour as their Japanese counterparts. So it may be likely for Guido to have dark chocolaty hair whilst Speedy's hair is plain brown.
Bad Bird Unleashed showed signs of hair on Speedy (through a crack in his helmet), but I doubt they're his. The ending scene was confusing as he did not even cracked his helmet, unless it was a cutout scene from KNT, then your guess is as good as mine.

[Blackcat]

Then explain the TMNT reference in the first episode and some others things that have been already talked a lot

Show me the "TNMT reference" in KNT #1 please.  I really don't think the Japanese creators didn't have enough influnce from Japanese shows and culture and needed to turn to a stupid over commercialized American kid's show that wasn't on in Japan for ideas.  Maybe, perhaps, TMNT might have ripped off some stuff from other Japanese influnces that KNT also includes.  But even comparing Pizza Cats to Ninja Turtles should get you sent to Extra's Island.  Sorry, I know a lot of you like it, but I really hate that show.

By the way, real ninjas were nothing like in the movies, sure some were very skilled, but a lot of them were just peasants that happened to have weapons.  (in fact many "ninja weapons" are actually farming tools)  They played only a very minor role in Japanese history.

Espionage and assassination wasn’t a minor part in Japanese story, but if you want to believe most ninjas where just farmers dressed in black, do it. And that old turtle in KNT 1 was there to mock the ninja turtles.

[KyoZaber]

Or... Just maybe... it could've been coincidence. 

[Violet]

Then explain the TMNT reference in the first episode and some others things that have been already talked a lot

Show me the "TNMT reference" in KNT #1 please.  I really don't think the Japanese creators didn't have enough influnce from Japanese shows and culture and needed to turn to a stupid over commercialized American kid's show that wasn't on in Japan for ideas.  Maybe, perhaps, TMNT might have ripped off some stuff from other Japanese influnces that KNT also includes.  But even comparing Pizza Cats to Ninja Turtles should get you sent to Extra's Island.  Sorry, I know a lot of you like it, but I really hate that show.

By the way, real ninjas were nothing like in the movies, sure some were very skilled, but a lot of them were just peasants that happened to have weapons.  (in fact many "ninja weapons" are actually farming tools)  They played only a very minor role in Japanese history.

Espionage and assassination wasn’t a minor part in Japanese story, but if you want to believe most ninjas where just farmers dressed in black, do it. And that old turtle in KNT 1 was there to mock the ninja turtles.

So, of all the different types of animals in Edoropolis, a turtle can only possibly be there because of TMNT?  I suppose all the rabbits are there because of Bugs Bunny.  And Yattarou & Sukashii are rip-offs of the Swat Kats, right?

You can't learn real history from movies and a few web pages.  Can you name one important Japanese leader who was killed by ninjas?   But as you say, you're welcome to believe what you like.

[D-Mac]

         I know that Guido's hair is brown, polly's hair is red. But what colour has speedy's hair?

                      mauwra

If only...
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/21573926/


The old turtle guy in KNT 01 is more than likely a coincidence, as he didn't resemble the TMNTs at all, aside from the fact that he was a turtle.

Turtles are supposed to move slowly. Old people are also supposed to move slowly. I assume the "joke" was that he couldn't move fast enough to avoid the falling rubble, unlike all the other citizens.

The possible TMNT reference in KNT 03's sewer scene is a bit more plausible, but I'm still uncertain as to whether it's a coincidence or not.
I'll eventually re-post the comparison pictures that I'd had up on SPCU.
Eerily similar.

[Blackcat]

Then explain the TMNT reference in the first episode and some others things that have been already talked a lot

Show me the "TNMT reference" in KNT #1 please.  I really don't think the Japanese creators didn't have enough influnce from Japanese shows and culture and needed to turn to a stupid over commercialized American kid's show that wasn't on in Japan for ideas.  Maybe, perhaps, TMNT might have ripped off some stuff from other Japanese influnces that KNT also includes.  But even comparing Pizza Cats to Ninja Turtles should get you sent to Extra's Island.  Sorry, I know a lot of you like it, but I really hate that show.

By the way, real ninjas were nothing like in the movies, sure some were very skilled, but a lot of them were just peasants that happened to have weapons.  (in fact many "ninja weapons" are actually farming tools)  They played only a very minor role in Japanese history.

Espionage and assassination wasn’t a minor part in Japanese story, but if you want to believe most ninjas where just farmers dressed in black, do it. And that old turtle in KNT 1 was there to mock the ninja turtles.

So, of all the different types of animals in Edoropolis, a turtle can only possibly be there because of TMNT?  I suppose all the rabbits are there because of Bugs Bunny.  And Yattarou & Sukashii are rip-offs of the Swat Kats, right?

You can't learn real history from movies and a few web pages.  Can you name one important Japanese leader who was killed by ninjas?   But as you say, you're welcome to believe what you like.

Well, poisoning counts?.

Ninja turtles was made before KNT, Swat kats was made after KNT, in 1992 or 1993 I think…

And since you totally ignored the SD Gundan resemblances,and my whole Gachaman bla bla bla I guess you aren’t paying attention.

I never said KNT copied the ninja turtles, I just said they parodied them at least 2 times. The whole “Alien pig” episode could be taken as some kind of ET reference.

[Violet]

And since you totally ignored the SD Gundan resemblances,and my whole Gachaman bla bla bla I guess you aren’t paying attention.

Where did I ever say Gundam wasn't an influence?  I ignored it because I don't dispute that.  Lots of anime mecha is influenced by Gundam (But not "Gundan", no one has heard of that)

[ApacheMan2K]

are you sure all that is true, Blackcat? i don't see how any of it is either, and since Vi feels so ticked off about everything you said, i'll have to take her word for it. so, could we all do ourselves a favor and switch to another SPC mystery question?

[Blackcat]

Here is a hard question, name a singer or a group that did at least one KNT song and at least one Saber marionette J song.

[Daisensei]

         I know that Guido's hair is brown, polly's hair is red. But what colour has speedy's hair?

                      mauwra

If only...
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/21573926/

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So this cats hair discussion seems to be a guesswork. OK, that's really a mistery.
Interesting the artwork of the link given by D-Mac, Yattarou in samurai costumes. I have imagined how Edoropolis could be after the comet incident. After his identity being exposed, Yattarou could not continue as ninja (spy), but eventually the new roojuu (Shogun's counselor) Wankoo-no-kami (Al Dent) would hire him as samurai (warrior).

[Violet]

Since the "Alien Pig" was mentioned, here's a bit of KNT trivia for you.  That pig character was not designed by anyone at Tatsunoko.  The studio held a contest for kids to design a character to appear on the show.  The winning entry was the pig.

[Blackcat]

Polly hair is red, since Speedy is some kind of parody of the typical leader his hair must be black, and since Guido is the typical rival in love/ sidekick his hair must be brown. Brown haired leaders weren’t usual in 1990 anime, and since KNT intended to mock a lot of elements in sentai/mecha anime Speedy Hair must be black.

Have I talked about the "Macross" love triangle? Speedy ends with the girl he works with, instead of the singer (Lucille). And Guido ends alone…

[Methid Man]

Enough with the comparisons. SPC/KNT is its own show regardless of whatever elements other shows have.

As Vi stated, just because one show uses a type of animal doesn't mean another show that uses the same animal is making a parody off the other in any way, just as how hair color has nothing to do with a character's status.

-- Sam the Methid Man

[KyoZaber]

Here's a mystery for you folks...

After the elixer had worn off from "Youth is for exploding" what kept Polly, Francine, and Lucile from beating the living who-hah outa Guru Lou?