Differences between KNT and SPC

[cartoonking10749]

Terrence Scammell did...
Guido Anchovie, The Narrator, Jerry Atrick, Bat Cat, Emporer Fred Tokugawa, Cannonball Battalay, and Cosmo

Plus some other minor roles that I might have missed.



He is the most awesome of the voice actors IMO.

He looks like David Hasselhoff.

[littlebadwolf]

I would have said Andrew McCarthy, or maybe Jason Gray-Stanford from "Monk."   

[Takila]

A barrage of questions from yours' truly:

Are Yattarou/Pururun/Sukashii all from the same clan of ninja?  If so, is that name ever mentioned?

What position in the Ninja crow clan do Gennarisai, Karamaru and the members of the Dark Quartet (tell me if I'm saying this right) each hold?

(More of a musing than a question)  Why didn't Samurai Savings Time/Toki wo Kakeru Nyankii feature the past versions of the cats?  Were they elsewhere at the time, or had they not been 'born' yet?

What's going on in  Uso! Shogun-sama wa Nisemono!? (episode 15)?  What was the reasoning behind the baloons?

Is the ninja crow with the pickle in Ponpoko Tanuki de Oosawagi (Episode 20)  really just doing an impression of Karamaru?

(Back to questions)  Is there any background information on the Rescue team?

Is there a back-story on any of the swords which the main cats use?

What does Daisensei study? What brands of knowledge does he posses?  (Ed. note:  NOT chemistry!  The other Daisensei.)

What did the Great warrior tell both Yattarou/ Karamaru on the bridge of the Nyagokingu?

and...

HOW did  Karamaru end up with a fully functional Ginzu-like sword? 

Basically, I'm doing all this before I formulate my own thoughts on the past, present, and future of the KNT/SPC series.  I appreciate whatever responses this gets.

[felineki]

Teyandee Daijiten mentions a cat ninja clan in the entry for Nekomyoujin-sama (the deity represented by the giant cat statue on Mt. Nekofuji). That's the only thing I can recall on the subject.

[Violet]

A barrage of questions from yours' truly:

Are Yattarou/Pururun/Sukashii all from the same clan of ninja?  If so, is that name ever mentioned?

I assume "Nyanki Ninja".

What position in the Ninja crow clan do Gennarisai, Karamaru and the members of the Dark Quartet (tell me if I'm saying this right) each hold?

Gennarisai is obviously the leader.  Karamaru seems to be the top ninja (as far as the ones who actually fight) I guess you could say he's the field commander.  The Dark Quartet seem to be independant, but work either for hire or out of some allegance to Gennarisai.

(More of a musing than a question)  Why didn't Samurai Savings Time/Toki wo Kakeru Nyankii feature the past versions of the cats?  Were they elsewhere at the time, or had they not been 'born' yet?

They are younger than Wanko or Koon, so they probably weren't born yet or were too young to be invovled.  Although they are robots/mecha/whatever, they do age, otherwise Wanko and Koon would have looked the same then.

What's going on in  Uso! Shogun-sama wa Nisemono!? (episode 15)?  What was the reasoning behind the baloons?

That's episode 16 in KNT.  The balloons had a design on them that sort of like and "evil eye" and is supposed to scare crows according to folklore.

Is the ninja crow with the pickle in Ponpoko Tanuki de Oosawagi (Episode 20)  really just doing an impression of Karamaru?

Yes, because of the crest on Karamaru's green helmet.  There may have also been a Japanese pun involved, I haven't tried to translate what he says.

(Back to questions)  Is there any background information on the Rescue team?

Is there a back-story on any of the swords which the main cats use?

What does Daisensei study? What brands of knowledge does he posses?  (Ed. note:  NOT chemistry!  The other Daisensei.)

What did the Great warrior tell both Yattarou/ Karamaru on the bridge of the Nyagokingu?

I don't know.

and...

HOW did  Karamaru end up with a fully functional Ginzu-like sword? 

You mean his own sword or the fake Masamasa (Ginzu)?

[Takila]

You mean his own sword or the fake Masamasa (Ginzu)?

His own, at the season finale.  That finisher seemed to come out of nowhere.

[Violet]

You mean his own sword or the fake Masamasa (Ginzu)?

His own, at the season finale.  That finisher seemed to come out of nowhere.

All anime ninja have "Ninpo" (Ninja Magic, the KNT game even shows your Nimpo Level.)  Although the swords may be special and have certian powers, I assume most of the power of the special attacks comes from the person holding it.

[Daisensei]

A barrage of questions from yours' truly:

What position in the Ninja crow clan do Gennarisai, Karamaru and the members of the Dark Quartet (tell me if I'm saying this right) each hold?

Gennarisai is obviously the leader.  Karamaru seems to be the top ninja (as far as the ones who actually fight) I guess you could say he's the field commander.  The Dark Quartet seem to be independant, but work either for hire or out of some allegance to Gennarisai.

The Dark Quartet WAS (before being patheticaly defeated by Nyankii) the most feared ninjas from the land of Karakara clan (it seems their land is located somewhere outside Edoropolis city). They are called by Gennarisai to annihilate Nyankii.

(More of a musing than a question)  Why didn't Samurai Savings Time/Toki wo Kakeru Nyankii feature the past versions of the cats?  Were they elsewhere at the time, or had they not been 'born' yet?

They are younger than Wanko or Koon, so they probably weren't born yet or were too young to be invovled.  Although they are robots/mecha/whatever, they do age, otherwise Wanko and Koon would have looked the same then.

The time of this episode was set 15 years in the past, so if we assume that Nyankii are now about 20 years old, they all were children. Pity the  cats of the past have not been shown, 5-7 years old Pururun must be very cute. 

(Back to questions)  Is there any background information on the Rescue team?

The few things mentioned in 'Meka meka ninpou hidenchou' is that each of them run a branch of the Pizzacats.

Is there a back-story on any of the swords which the main cats use?

None that I knew of.

What does Daisensei study? What brands of knowledge does he posses?  (Ed. note:  NOT chemistry!  The other Daisensei.)

Oh, yes, Nekomata Sensei, not Matsumoto Sensei. It was never mentioned in the series, but he works with mechanics, cybernetics and chemistry (when they made a kind of elixir)... actually he isn't bright in any of these fields.

[ouka]

Ah... I had watched the series finale before all the other eps and I was wondering where the heck the extra Ginzu came from. 

[Takila]

Thank  you for both of your responses, Daisensei and Violet.

You mean his own sword or the fake Masamasa (Ginzu)?

His own, at the season finale.  That finisher seemed to come out of nowhere.

All anime ninja have "Ninpo" (Ninja Magic, the KNT game even shows your Nimpo Level.)  Although the swords may be special and have certian powers, I assume most of the power of the special attacks comes from the person holding it.

From what the translated first episode says, Yattarou's sword (possibly Purunrun and Sukashii's as well) is under some sort of magical seal which only lifts itself when the user becomes excessively righteous.  Given the wording of the translation, I assumed that the sword was a source rather than an instrument of power.

As for the Rescue team:  Are they members of the Nyanki Ninja, or contracted out like the Dark Quartet?  Do they have a history before working at the other Pizza Cat restaurants, or are they minor characters that fill a story requirement? 

Also, in Gyakuten! Nyankii Sora wo Tobu (The Pizza Cats are only Human: Part 2), what is the significance of the golden beanie that Daisensei found?  Is there a Japanese pun, or does it serve the same purpose as it's SPC counterpart?

How did Daisensei live to be 350?  Why is he immune to old age?  (It probably isn't due to his amazing knowledge of mechanics, cybernetics OR chemistry, but I'll not put it past him.)

Is the Comet in the finale one out of Japanese folklore, or one known worldwide?

Now that I think of it, is Karamaru's sword ever given a name?  Or any of the weapons of the Dark Quartet?

[B.J.]

KNT is a mild fantasy action-oriented anime series. It contains tons of japanese puns and jokes that may not be suitable for western audiences (unless you like japanese anime better). However, it's action portions are taken more seriously and there are no jokes when it comes to that. It also has a old-fashion japanese setting with a castle or head building and a few locals who act as typical citizens (like the show Naruto).  It's more of your typical shonen or shojou anime shows where you have a main character with a ditzy personality but a strong sense of justice who, along side his/her allies, saves the city/world from those with selfesh desires.

SPC is a humor-based show with action (kind of like the original TMNT series). However, unlike the original, the series doesn't take itself seriously. There are more puns than action but there is plenty of fighting portions. But even during those times, the characters are too obsessed with what's on their minds or how long the episodes are, often waiting for a commercial break. It's more like your typical Saturday morning cartoons like Tiny Toons or Animaniacs, with wacky humor and sarcastic characters (I'm talking to you, Buster Bunny, Yakko Warner , Speedy Cerviche, and Narrator). All 3 cats seem to be the focus of the series, while in KNT, Yattarou is the main character.

[felineki]

Also, in Gyakuten! Nyankii Sora wo Tobu (The Pizza Cats are only Human: Part 2), what is the significance of the golden beanie that Daisensei found?  Is there a Japanese pun, or does it serve the same purpose as it's SPC counterpart?

That was the flight mechanism that he had actually made, and was planning to give to them. Of course, when Nyagoking gets released, he decides to take credit for it instead.

Is the Comet in the finale one out of Japanese folklore, or one known worldwide?

It's called "Harahorohireharee Comet" and it passes by every 75 years, so I'd assume it's based on Halley's comet.

B.J., I don't quite agree with your statement on KNT. It doesn't take itself seriously, It's full of all sorts of self-parody.

[B.J.]

No, I meant SPC doesn't take itself seriously. I do believe that KNT has a few jokes here and there, but so far from what I've seen, KNT is a more serious (yet still lighthearted) show. So far, the only time I've seen KNT joke more than fight is the KNT manga. Sorry, I not very good at explaining things well.

[Tchaikovskunk]

I've actually put the SPC episode 9 and the corresponding KNT episode up side by side, synced them up, etc. I'll probably upload it to my Youtube account one of these days.

One very interesting thing I've found is that a few of the sound effects from SPC are actually taken from the original KNT episodes.

[Teyandee]

One more interesting difference:

KNT 36 "Moyase seishun! Mata deta Daisensei"
is giving his elixir.


Now look at SPC 35 "Youth is for Exploding":


I can`t imagine what was the reason for this mirroring

[felineki]

Huh, interesting. The original KNT version of this episode involved Daisensei groping lots of girls, including Otama during this scene. That was too racy for SPC, so those shots were cut out. I'd have to compare the episodes to be certain (which I can't at the moment, I still need to reinstall the video codecs), but maybe Daisensei's and Francine's positions moved during the shot that was cut, and the following shot of the elixir being force-fed was flipped to maintain continuity?

[Iván el Terrible]

KNT:
Uncut version of SPC
Bad ratings during the 2 seasons

Bad ratings? How did it happen? How do you know it?

[felineki]

According to this article which cites Newtype, a major anime magazine, KNT actualy had good ratings during its run.

[Iván el Terrible]

"I wish I had more information to share about this particular franchise because I know that it still has a small but loyal fan following in America despite having been unavailable in America since the early 1990s. The 1990 anime television series Cats Toninden Teyande lasted through 54 episodes, which isn’t an especially long run, but also is longer than many typical anime television series. I examined my personal collection of old Japanese Newtype magazines to find that throughout the series broadcast from February 1990 to February 1991, its viewer rating ranged from 9% to 13%. For comparison, current anime television series including Ge Ge Ge no Kitaro, Doraemon, and Chibi Maruko-chan earn ratings in the 9-13% range. In other words, if it was broadcast today and earned the same ratings that it earned in 1990, more Japanese viewers would be watching Cats Toninden Teyande than One Piece, Naruto, Yes! Precure 5, or Pocket Monster Diamond & Pearl – all of which earn ratings around 7% or 8%."

More people interested in Teyandee than in One Piece or Naruto. It's amazing know it

[KageReneko]

Well, Teyandee has a really original concept and few series are similar to them... Even Eto Rangers lacks some of the sarcastic humour of KNT... Naruto and One Piece are generic series and almost everthing in them has already appeared in lots of other series...

The KNT concept hasn't been used so much, the only show that is slighty similar to KNT is Saber Marionette J...