Differences between KNT and SPC

[sjonnoh]

the only show that is slighty similar to KNT is Saber Marionette J...

I can't remember exactly which show it was, but at an other anime forum there was this guy which posted his fav characters (I think it was gundam seed) and then you saw these guys in outfits that were very similar to those space outfits from spc, and when I showed a picture from speedy in his space outfit, a lot of people on that forum thought for a 2nd it was a character from that anime. too bad I can't see his post anymore, he deleted it for some reason...

[Teyandee]

I am starting to realize, that Japan-related references were not the only reason for some scenes to be cut from KNT.
The "suitability for children" was probably the second main reason for the missing scenes.

For example, the following moments were removed from SPC:
1) SPC 01 - "Stop Dragon My Cat Around!"
1.1) Crows on fire:



1.2) Crows after the "Neko Maneki" impact:


2) SPC 03 - "Underground, Underwater, Undercooked"
2.1) Crows after the "Kakimushiri no Jutsu" impact:


3) SPC 06 - "Singing Samurai Sensation!"
3.1) A 10 ton weight lands on 's head
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But I have to agree - the cutted scenes from KNT01 and 03 are kinda cruel.

[Fureon]

That scratched crow would give me nightmares if I'd see it as a kid o___o

[Mr.NoName]

Mmm... I can understand why they'd leave out the former three (especially the eyeball scratching.. ouch!), but... why cut out the 10 ton weight? Not to say that it's.. you know.. okay for that to be in there, but I've seen worse or roughly the same kind of things happen with cartoons like Looney Toons and Tom & Jerry.

[felineki]

It's because it's part of a longer pun/gag that was cut. Sukashii and Yattarou are picking on Pururun, Sukashii says that Pururun and Omitsu are polar opposites (literally, "like the moon and a snapping turtle" ("tsuki to suppon")). Cut to reaction shot of Pururun where a moon and a snapping turtle fall on her head. Yattarou picks up the snapping turtle and draws a "bu" on it's shell, then says something about "busuppon" (I don't entirely get the pun here, but it's referring to the word "busu", a rude term meaning an ugly woman). Sukashii retorts "Yattarou, isn't that going a too far?" Pururun looks pleased, thinking that Sukashii's standing up for her. Sukashii then continues "That's completely unfair to the poor snapping turtle!" Cue 10 ton weight.

[Mr.NoName]

Ah.. okay. I understand now; thanks for the explanation.

[Tigriss]

Sukashii retorts "Yattarou, isn't that going a too far?" Pururun looks pleased, thinking that Sukashii's standing up for her. Sukashii then continues "That's completely unfair to the poor snapping turtle!" Cue 10 ton weight.

Ouch. That was just asking for it.

The eye-scratching isn't so bad once you realize that it's only a scratched lens.
'Cause they're robots...

Yeah, but it still looks pretty gruesome.

[Mechadon]

lenses don't normally bleed though.

[Teyandee]

Thanks for explanation, felineki.

The scene where slaps after he has landed on her tail is removed from SPC06 (Singing Samurai Sensation!):



We can only guess why it was cut.
Is there is something controversial in girl slapping the boy?
Accidents can happen in the anime and there is nothing strange about it. And had to react somehow as her tail was stepped on.
Did they think that just yelling is enough for the reaction? I think no.

They could, however, not wanted the red "slap sign" to be left on `s face - it is a comedy after all.

[Fureon]

The slap mark was certainly not the reason. It is comedic too, and SPC had several scenes (crashes etc.) that left Speedy with almost his whole face red with no problem.
I don't think it has to do anything with girl->boy slapping either. It could be controversial if it was the other way around, but this is nothing out of ordinary.
Probably the scene was just considered unnecessary and cut to fit the episode in the 20 minutes time slot.
I have no idea.

The eye-scratching isn't so bad once you realize that it's only a scratched lens.
'Cause they're robots...

It still looks like an actual organic eye (and probably is).
You can see the popped veins all around. The crow's pain scream doesn't help either.
It also took me a while to realize the crow has pupils. It's even more gruesome if you don't see them.

[Mechadon]

What did the five fingers say to the face?

[Blackcat]

They are four fingers...

[Tigriss]

I meant to reply to your post earlier, Teyandee, but I forgot. Who can tell how the mind of a censor works sometimes? Keep in mind that when the show was edited even further in the US, sometimes the very WORD "violence" was removed or replaced. Crazy, huh? My best guess for the slap is that this was an earlier episode (correct me if I'm wrong) and they didn't yet know how bad Polly's temper was or that she sometimes would go even further and take a pan to the head of her co-workers, and they wanted to cut instances of the heroes being hostile to one another. Because, you know, friends never fight in real life. The red mark left on Yattarou's face was probably also taken into consideration, maybe they thought it looked too severe.

[Teyandee]

Who can tell how the mind of a censor works sometimes?

I think everything that is not appropriate for kids may be considered for the removal.

My best guess for the slap is that this was an earlier episode (correct me if I'm wrong) and they didn't yet know how bad Polly's temper was or that she sometimes would go even further and take a pan to the head of her co-workers, and they wanted to cut instances of the heroes being hostile to one another.

In KNT the slap scene appear first: KNT05, and then KNT 06 - used the pan.

In SPC it is vice versa: 
SPC05 - and (twice) were hit by `s frying pan.
SPC06 - Slapping scene removed.

Maybe, when someone is being hit by a pan was considered "funnier" than being slapped?

[Teyandee]

Indeed. Then I suppose that "only one scratching mark" scene is not so inappropriate for the kids.

[Fureon]

This one is not scary, Harm.
The first one had the crow's face deformed and all scratched up, mostly the eyes which are full of visible blood vessels and at first sight feature no pupils.

[Pizzacat]

One I found that surprised me quite a bit was that in the KNT version of Badbird Uncaged, Badbird's flute/pipe weapon which can be seen in both KNT and SPC as transforming into a bazooka, what was left out of SPC though was the fact that it could transform into a full on bullet spewing machine gun!, which Bad Bird used to pepper Guido's samurai sunspot umbrella full of holes and render it useless when Guido and Polly fought him, he also was shooting it randomly all over the place when he was causing general panic all over the city and finally he used it against Speedy in their big public duel.

[Teyandee]

Daisensei has noticed this "cut" 

I agree with ApacheMan2K:

Saban obviously believed that an actual, or false, death scene would have been way too creepy for the younger kids.

Plus - one thing is to get the flute transformed into a machine gun, but making it a bazooka is hardly to explain (for the kid cartoons, not anime like KNT).

[Blackcat]

Things got so waterdown after the eighties, cartoons in the eighties wherr way more violent that SPC, how fair is that people that grew with those cartoons forbids their kids to watch violence? That does not really solve things, I could explain why, but I would need to get in some details that ironicaly would make this forum less kid friendly.

[Teyandee]

2 scenes was cut from KNT 24 Rereh Koon-no-kami ni kodomo: (Samurai Pizza Cats 23 - Son of Big Cheese)

1) A child who "wetted" the floor:


2) changing the baby`s diaper:
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I think the second one could be a good lesson how to take care of a baby. Maybe the children are not yet prepared to learn this.